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Ptrope January 13 2009 09:24 PM

"John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!
 
According to Sci-Fi Wire, Andrew Stanton is working on a new draft of his script for the proposed movie (possibly a trilogy!) from Disney, not Pixar (since it's live-action and most likely at least PG-13), and they're starting to talk about casting. It would be interesting if Pixar were to at least handle the VFX, a logical next step from their all-CGI films, which have digital effects as complex as anything ILM or other 'live action' digital effects houses have created.

I've never been all that confident in either a live-action or an all-CGI interpretation of the Barsoom universe, but with Stanton in there, hopefully as director as well as writer, I think this will finally happen, and they'll pull it off as a real ground-breaking film. Here's hoping! :bolian:

Misfit Toy January 13 2009 09:46 PM

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^"Here's hoping" is right - I'd LOVE to see this get done!

Guy Gardener January 13 2009 10:06 PM

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John Carter Warlord of ER was good enough that I'm wonder in if Noah would reprise the part?

btflash January 13 2009 10:49 PM

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man, they have been talking about doing this film for years. i hope it really happens. the books were awesome!:drool:

Jan January 14 2009 12:15 AM

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The Mars series and the Pern series are the books I've most wanted to see realized on film for as long as I can remember. Hopefully by somebody who 'gets' them.

Jan

RJDiogenes January 14 2009 12:34 AM

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I hope this turns out well. I don't care if it's live action or all CGI, as long as they make it for adults.

Orintho January 14 2009 01:16 AM

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Disney? I hope they don't turn this into a child's movie.

Obi Wana Jones January 14 2009 01:23 AM

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The did Narnia right.

Here's hoping they don't screw it up by tossing in a couple cutesy droids and walking teddy bears.

No, wait, I'm confusing them with our buddy George Lucas . . . :lol:

dragunzng January 14 2009 01:25 AM

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Really looking forward to this.

Lasseter already stated that Pixar won't be handling the VFX, since they have no intention of becoming a VFX house and there are other studios that do that better. I agree personally, VFX is pretty different from animation.

Orintho January 14 2009 01:28 AM

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Quote:

Obi Wana Jones wrote: (Post 2499221)
The did Narnia right.

Yeah, but Narnia was mainly a kid's book to begin with.

Temis the Vorta January 14 2009 04:29 AM

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Great! I'm strongly in favor of live action and Ben Browder in the lead role. (He's from Tennessee, and that's close enough to play a Virginia gentleman.)

But the way things go, they'll probably cast Shia LeBoeuf. :rommie:

Red Ranger January 14 2009 04:50 AM

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Temis the Vorta wrote: (Post 2499841)
Great! I'm strongly in favor of live action and Ben Browder in the lead role. (He's from Tennessee, and that's close enough to play a Virginia gentleman.)

But the way things go, they'll probably cast Shia LeBoeuf. :rommie:

Maybe. Or Matthew McConaghey!

Mr. Adventure January 14 2009 07:02 AM

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I suppose it's not a question that there will be liberties taken, the question is going to be if they will leave enough to still be decent.

Ptrope January 14 2009 06:07 PM

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Quote:

dragunzng wrote: (Post 2499236)
Really looking forward to this.

Lasseter already stated that Pixar won't be handling the VFX, since they have no intention of becoming a VFX house and there are other studios that do that better. I agree personally, VFX is pretty different from animation.

I agree with that last statement, but even animated films separate "animation" from "visual effects" (basically, as stated in the excellent extras of Disney's Atlantis, "visual effects are everything that moves that isn't a character").

I suppose I could see Pixar not doing explosions and digital sets and scenes, but I hope someone at least of their caliber is responsible for Tars Tarkas, and the banths, and thoats, and white apes, and plant men ... there are a ton of non-human characters in the Barsoom novels. That's been my main concern with any live-action or CGI attempt - a totally CGI version would probably fall prey to the Uncanny Valley (which kinda sounds like one of the places on Barsoom! ;)) if they tried to do John Carter and the Red Men realistically - it doesn't need to look like Polar Express or Beowulf. OTOH, a live-action version could look like the LotR films - I wasn't impressed by Gollum or any of WETA's digital creatures (the lighting was never right, to my eyes; however, I do think they did a bang-up job on King Kong, the character). I've thought the best way to present John Carter and Barsoom was as a more traditional animated film, but using 3D and CGI as much as possible in creating depth and realism of movement to cel animation. I still do; I know I'm in a very tiny minority (maybe of 1 :)), but Stanton's involvement says, to me, that someone who cares about both story and about visuals is in there where it counts, so I'm hopeful.

Of course, I'm sure the nudity is out, but after decades of book covers and paintings with tastefully-covered women, our collective vision of Barsoom can accept that particular change to the novels ;). As long as Dejah Thoris has those proportions that Frazetta gave her ...

Misfit Toy January 14 2009 07:31 PM

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Mr. Adventure wrote: (Post 2500128)
I suppose it's not a question that there will be liberties taken, the question is going to be if they will leave enough to still be decent.

"Featuring Danny DeVito as Tars Tarkus" :eek:


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