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JoeZhang December 3 2008 02:56 PM

Was Guinan suppose to have powers?
 
In the encounter between Q and Gunian (in Q Who) - was the original intent that Guinan would have special powers (beyond the time sense we saw later)? There is a scene where it looks like she and Q are going to start shooting at each other with their hands?

DRMidnite December 3 2008 03:00 PM

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JoeZhang wrote: (Post 2363392)
In the encounter between Q and Gunian (in Q Who) - was the original intent that Guinan would have special powers (beyond the time sense we saw later)? There is a scene where it looks like she and Q are going to start shooting at each other with their hands?

I always wondered about that myself. Guinan looks like she's about to start throwing hexes or something.

RoJoHen December 3 2008 03:03 PM

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She can listen to him until he DIES!!!

Muahahahaha!

chris32482 December 3 2008 03:12 PM

Re: Was Guinan suppose to have powers?
 
I always wondered what her relationship to Picard was. In BOBW she tells Riker it is "beyond friendship, beyond family..." ??

billcosby December 3 2008 03:16 PM

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JoeZhang wrote: (Post 2363392)
In the encounter between Q and Gunian (in Q Who) - was the original intent that Guinan would have special powers (beyond the time sense we saw later)? There is a scene where it looks like she and Q are going to start shooting at each other with their hands?

I don't know about hand projectiles, but it seems her encounter with the Nexus gave her some degree of clairvoyance, or a 6th sense of sorts.

Case in point - during Yesterday's Enterprise Guinan was freakin'. She knew she wasn't supposed to know Tasha Yar... etc. Her Spidey Sense seemed to be aware of alternate timelines. I could see how a close call with an anomaly like The Nexus could have such an effect.

After Generations, rewatching certain TNG episodes where Guinan had a weird sense about people had a different meaning. :)

DRMidnite December 3 2008 03:16 PM

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chris32482 wrote: (Post 2363412)
I always wondered what her relationship to Picard was. In BOBW she tells Riker it is "beyond friendship, beyond family..." ??

The TNG episode "Time's Arrow" explains it somewhat.

WillsBabe December 3 2008 03:29 PM

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I assumed, when I first saw the Guinan-Q confrontation that there was going to be something more to Guinan that what we eventually saw. I felt toyed with by the Guinan-Picard relationship, to be honest. It's like the writers wanted it to be something mythic and mythical and couldn't quite make it happen. I dunno, Guinan just bugged me, per se, to be honest.

JNG December 3 2008 03:56 PM

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JoeZhang wrote: (Post 2363392)
In the encounter between Q and Gunian (in Q Who) - was the original intent that Guinan would have special powers (beyond the time sense we saw later)? There is a scene where it looks like she and Q are going to start shooting at each other with their hands?

If you watch The Color Purple, Whoopi Goldberg does the same strange pose when a guy is about to attack her. So I think it's just a Whoopi Goldberg thing.

I loved this scene--"she's an imp"--and the whole episode, really. Lesser writers would have had Q gloating at the end. Everyone seemed slightly more intellectual in the episodes with heavy Maurice Hurley influence, and they wore that well, especially Riker.

Jax December 3 2008 05:53 PM

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Maybe she is immune to any direct attack from Q, hence the defensive posture in that episode.

billcosby December 4 2008 03:24 AM

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Posted from Guinan's entry on Memory Alpha:
In the novel Engines of Destiny, a confrontation between an alternate Guinan and the Guardian of Forever reveals that the version of Guinan in the Nexus is the source of her constant 'feelings', as this version of herself exists outside all time, and can thus reach out to her other selves and provide valuable insight into possible actions that must be taken, although even she is ignorant of what the definitive outcome will be in the end.

kissthestar December 4 2008 05:44 PM

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DRMidnite wrote: (Post 2363395)
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JoeZhang wrote: (Post 2363392)
In the encounter between Q and Gunian (in Q Who) - was the original intent that Guinan would have special powers (beyond the time sense we saw later)? There is a scene where it looks like she and Q are going to start shooting at each other with their hands?

I always wondered about that myself. Guinan looks like she's about to start throwing hexes or something.

It looked like the verge of a cat fight to me.

2 of 10 December 5 2008 07:02 AM

Re: Was Guinan suppose to have powers?
 
Besides hanging out in 10 Forward, making strange drinks and wearing a weird hat, I did not notice any special powers that Guinan had. However, she was of the same species that Dr. Soran was in "Generations" I don't recall that he had any special powers of his own, besides lecturing Pickard about how totally futile life outside the Nexus is, and killing Kirk...

Resistance is Futile

davidant32 December 5 2008 07:18 AM

Re: Was Guinan suppose to have powers?
 
it seemed like Guinan, with her extreme age and listening abilities, had a 'special power' in that she knew the 'true nature' of the Q, and was not fooled by his tricks. Q might've just warned picard of her being an 'imp' in order to cast doubt on her in Picard's eyes, in an attempt to make her less credible (and in turn make himself more credible to picard)

in reality, it was probably a character development that the writers decided to drop and were luckily able to later attribute the whole thing to the Nexus and call it good

GeorgeKirk December 8 2008 04:00 PM

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Ice powers. She has Andorian ice powers.

Captain Zog December 8 2008 05:44 PM

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I don't think she was supposed to have "powers". She was just very old and very wise.


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