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wonderstoat November 28 2008 02:59 PM

Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
I've just rewatched ST3 and noticed a few things.

One, is that it's a much better film than I remember, some great character moments ("how can you be deaf with ears that big?"; "don't call me 'Tiny;"; "but you don't have eight, so I'll do it for ye in two", significant things happen (David dies, Ent gets scuttled) and I can't help feeling it may have been a lot better if it wasn't for the hokey Genesis studio set.

It also has the single best line in all of trek "That green-blooded son of a bitch ..." you all know the rest ...

Anyways, one thing that's puzzled me is that Uhura is completely absent after the transporter scene with "Mr Adventure" until the final scene on Vulcan.

I'm amazed I never noticed before. Can anyone shed any light on this? Is there some backstage story concerning Nichelle Nichols?

Jarrott2 November 28 2008 04:20 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
This has also bothered me over the years. I always thought how cool it would have been if instead when they beam over and are on the bridge that the turbo lift doors open and in walks Uhura saying "you boys didn't think you could do this alone!" and behind her walks Janice Rand, Christine Chapel, Kevin Riley and others from the old series. And then she says I brought some old friends. I hated it that they blew up the Enterprise. One of my beefs with all the movies is that the Enterprise was never really grand it always ended up getting pumeled or destroyed.

Admiral Bear November 28 2008 04:23 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
I've always guessed Uhura wasn't central to the story, and as such Nichols only had a small part. Star Trek III is essentially Kirk and McCoy going to find Spock's body so that McCoy can have his marbles back.

It's a good dark film, albeit with a very simple story, although sometimes they work the best. :)

Kryton November 28 2008 05:12 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
Yup. She just wasn't key to the plot and, frankly, it worked to have her wish them well and see them off.

My favorite Trek film, BTW...truest to everything Trek ever meant to me growing up. "The needs of the ONE sometimes outweigh the needs of the many." Only Jim Kirk. <sniffle>

Anticitizen November 28 2008 05:26 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
Well, Uhura did pop up on Vulcan at the end.

Don't forget the best part, though -

'I (kick) have HAD (kick) enough of YOU! (KICK)'

Shatmandu November 28 2008 05:33 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
I remember reading some slash about what Uhura did with "Mister Adventure" in that closet.

Jeez!

Joe, not easily shocked

ST-One November 28 2008 05:55 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
She may not have had a big part in that movie, but she looked younger than in all the other film (even TMP and TWOK).

DGCatAniSiri November 28 2008 11:41 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
I'm not sure if it was just the author's imagining or part of a bit of cut material, but in the novelization, Uhura goes to the Vulcan embassy and Sarek, just ahead of Federation security and gets asylum, which is how she got to Vulcan.

Not sure what the actual reason for her lack of usage was, but I can easily imagine the execs considering that not as exciting so they wanted it left out.

tranya November 28 2008 11:50 PM

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Quote:

DGCatAniSiri wrote: (Post 2346578)
I'm not sure if it was just the author's imagining or part of a bit of cut material, but in the novelization, Uhura goes to the Vulcan embassy and Sarek, just ahead of Federation security and gets asylum, which is how she got to Vulcan.

Not sure what the actual reason for her lack of usage was, but I can easily imagine the execs considering that not as exciting so they wanted it left out.

Yeah, the novelization was top notch, full of awesome extra bits like this -- it was by far my favorite novelization. I remember reading it as a kid and getting at least 100 pages into it and still hadn't reached the first scene of the movie.

RyanKCR November 29 2008 12:10 AM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
I read in a magazine interview that on original reading Nichelle counted her lines and complained to Bennett. He asked her if she read the lines themselve. She admitted she didn't and when she did she was extremely happy with what she was able to do and was grateful for the spotlight Bennet put on her in that scene.

Therin of Andor November 29 2008 12:49 AM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
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RyanKCR wrote: (Post 2346675)
I read in a magazine interview that on original reading Nichelle counted her lines and complained to Bennett. He asked her if she read the lines themselve. She admitted she didn't and when she did she was extremely happy with what she was able to do and was grateful for the spotlight Bennet put on her in that scene.

Yep. "Starlog" interview with Harve Bennett. Nichelle was also pressuring for a skirt version of the Starfleet uniform (in ST II) and he made sure that wish was granted for ST III.

Peach Wookiee November 29 2008 06:51 AM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
She liked her skirts, and that's fine! ^^

Kirk1980 November 29 2008 09:41 AM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
Yeah, she may have only had one key scene but it was....a very very good one!

That'd make me happy, too!

Kryton November 29 2008 03:21 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
It's damn irregular is what it is! ;)

guardian November 29 2008 08:15 PM

Re: Why so little Uhura in ST3?
 
There was just as much Uhura in TSFS as Sulu & Chekov if you go by lines.

Sulu had the 'tiny' scene
Chekov the destruct scene and they are just background button pushers for the rest of the movie

I am a crazy line counter

I counted all the lines for the main regular characters in TSFS up till the stealing of the Enterprise, recently.

Uhura has about 30 lines
Sulu about 25
Chekov about 20 and
Kirk nearly 300 lines:rommie: and he's just getting warmed up, the others by that point had had their spotlight time.

Anybody who truly thinks that Nimoy changed balance of focus for the minor characters is just unaware.
In trek 3 & 4 he gave them each a little bit to do in one scene and they thought it was some kind of big deal.

TOS was the big 3, period.

Nimoy was just able to massage the egos of the other actors to keep them happy, not expand their roles.


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