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TrekToday October 23 2008 12:29 AM

Shatner Calls Takei 'Sick'
 
<font color=yellow>William Shatner</font> fires the latest salvo in the "Shatner-Takei" war with a scathing video attacking his former co-worker. <p>As reported by <A class="link" HREF="http://www.youtube.com/williamshatner">The Shatner Project</A>, Shatner has finally spoken up about <font color=yellow>George Takei's</font> earlier public announcement prior to Takei's wedding in which he said that Shatner had not been invited.<p>"The whole thing makes me feel badly, poor man," said Shatner. "There is such a sickness there. It's so patently obvious that there is a psychosis there. I don't know what his original thing about me was. I have no idea. I didn't read his book that was printed many years ago, but apparently I didn't let somebody have a close-up. I literally don't know him. I didn't know him very well on the series. He would come in for a day or two, as evidenced by the part he played. Then on the movies, there occasionally. I didn't know the man.<p>"But he has continued to speak badly about me for all these years," said Shatner. "Obviously, hiding his homosexuality, talk about festering, and not living the truth of your life and feeling badly about yourself, and being fearful somebody would find out about this terrible, terrible secret, so he thought. Finally at the age of, I think, seventy, he decides to come out of the closet and say, 'I'm gay'. Like, who cares? Be gay. Don't be gay. That's up to you George."<p>Shatner was puzzled as to why Takei continues to attacks him. "Why would he go out of his way to denigrate me," he asked. "It's sad that the man can't find enough peace in his life to either say 'Be positive' and say 'I forgive him, whatever those hurts were', or to shut up about it. It's sad. I feel nothing but pity for him."<p>To see the video, head to the link located <A class="link" HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAeLFjNCb3A&feature=email">here</A>.<center></center>

FalTorPan October 23 2008 12:53 AM

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I don't understand why anyone would harbor such strong negative feelings for a co-worker for so many years after the fact. Except for the feature films, the actors worked together for three years. How bad could it have possibly been?

ArthurKing October 23 2008 01:12 AM

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Split personality on this one:

The a$$hole in me wants to write (:devil:) that this all must have been the product of Big Daddy Shat spurning a rakish young Sulu back in the TOS 1960s ('Um, Bill, I think have some trouble with my own 'tribbles' -- can you take a look?'

The un-pc part of me wants to write that, quite frankly, it was a little lame for Takei to come out of the closet so late in the game. Seriously, grow a pair: I can see someone being quiet about it back when, but not in the last few decades. 'Coming out' in the early 21st century at 70+ years of age smacked of attention seeking behavior (something Shatner is also clearly prone to). It also speaks to the possibility of Takei having some larger issues, which might be manifesting here - seriously, although Shatner is going to get pummeled for these comments, staying in the closet for 70 years is going to screw you up.

The mature part of me wants to write that I completely agree with the poster above me: these are both old men who have had long and relatively successful careers and, like it or not, have a fair share of common memories and experiences, if only through the fact that they've worked together for years (despite Shatner's attempt to downplay 'a few movies'). It's ridiculous for them to be holding grudges - either of them - or for them to be airing this out in public, via videos, youtube, etc. I always thought that you became less petty (and more mature) when you entered your 'golden years' ... apparently not.

Photoman15 October 23 2008 01:46 AM

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If George did not realize this before, I hope he understands now, he (and Sulu) during the original run of the series was at best a 4th banana (to Shatners' top banana/Nimoy's Second banana and De Kelly's third banana). He got lucky that he was kept for the three seasons and then went along for the movie ride. If Shatner's Kirk and Nimoy's Spock (along with Kelly's McCoy) did not ingratiate itself into the American viewers life, his career would have been very limited. Once he realizes this, he should appologize to Shatner for his bad behavior over the years.

Broccoli October 23 2008 01:58 AM

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All the Shat/Takei stuff aside, I'm sure the TT article title will be negatively misinterpreted.

DarkHelmet October 23 2008 02:01 AM

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I don't know... the "feud" is public... So when someone asked Takei "Hey, did you invite Shatner", he said, "No".

I don't think that's a personal shot against Shatner. Takei has said other things that have been personal digs, but not that.

ancient October 23 2008 02:19 AM

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I'm really on Shat's side when it comes to their TOS/STmovie conflict. Takei always seems to have had a problem with Shat's star character stealing screen-time from his supporting character. :p

I always got the impression Takei was really hell-bent on his character being 'the captain' and was really sore over that line being deleted from STII. Dude, seriously, get over it. :lol: Sulu is not the main character. Even though he finally got his own ship...

The bottom line is, Shat and Takei got into an ego feud that Takei couldn't possibly win.

Broccoli October 23 2008 02:25 AM

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^ He brought a knife to a gun fight.

CaptainHikaruSulu October 23 2008 03:04 AM

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DarkHelmet wrote: (Post 2208641)
I don't know... the "feud" is public... So when someone asked Takei "Hey, did you invite Shatner", he said, "No".

Actually, when Takei was asked about inviting Shatner, the invitations had not yet been mailed out. They had a contact list of about 3,500 names and only 200 seats and he just wasn't sure if William Shatner would be able to make the cut. That's all. In the end, Shatner did get invited afterall so I don't understand what the hell Shatner is bitching about.

Brutal Strudel October 23 2008 03:13 AM

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Photoman15 wrote: (Post 2208568)
If George did not realize this before, I hope he understands now, he (and Sulu) during the original run of the series was at best a 4th banana (to Shatners' top banana/Nimoy's Second banana and De Kelly's third banana). He got lucky that he was kept for the three seasons and then went along for the movie ride. If Shatner's Kirk and Nimoy's Spock (along with Kelly's McCoy) did not ingratiate itself into the American viewers life, his career would have been very limited. Once he realizes this, he should appologize to Shatner for his bad behavior over the years.

If we're counting bananas (insert lame "Gay Sulu" joke here) (ha! "insert"!), Takei was at best co-fifth banana, after Doohan's fourth and along with Nicholls and Koenig (and Nicholls' mini-skirt may give her the edge there, making Takei and Koenig co-sixth bananas).

This post has a week's supply of potassium, btw.

T'Bonz October 23 2008 04:08 AM

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Broccoli wrote: (Post 2208629)
All the Shat/Takei stuff aside, I'm sure the TT article title will be negatively misinterpreted.

Hell. :(

I left off the "psychotic" bit because I felt it was a bit much. I hate writing articles like this.

FalTorPan October 23 2008 04:23 AM

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T'Booze wrote: (Post 2209145)
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Broccoli wrote: (Post 2208629)
All the Shat/Takei stuff aside, I'm sure the TT article title will be negatively misinterpreted.

Hell. :(

I left off the "psychotic" bit because I felt it was a bit much. I hate writing articles like this.

Don't let it bother you. Everything can be misinterpreted by someone. If people take the headline in an offensive way, then it's their own fault for not actually reading the article. Poo on them. :p

zenophite October 23 2008 04:35 AM

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ancient wrote: (Post 2208708)
I always got the impression Takei was really hell-bent on his character being 'the captain' and was really sore over that line being deleted from STII. Dude, seriously, get over it. :lol: Sulu is not the main character. Even though he finally got his own ship...

The bottom line is, Shat and Takei got into an ego feud that Takei couldn't possibly win.

indeed. I've thought for a long time that Takei gave himself far too much credit for being part of the Star Trek mythos - going on an on about how star trek changed the world and all that nonsense ad nauseum. Then later he goes and starts talking about how so many trek fans wanted the captain sulu series and I'm thinking to myself how convenient that is for someone to push that who has basically had no career.

Anyway, sulu was always a rather dull side character and nothing more - live with it George you don't have the gravitas to be captain - that voyager episode proved it IMO.

Aragorn October 23 2008 04:47 AM

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Photoman15 wrote: (Post 2208568)
If George did not realize this before, I hope he understands now, he (and Sulu) during the original run of the series was at best a 4th banana (to Shatners' top banana/Nimoy's Second banana and De Kelly's third banana). He got lucky that he was kept for the three seasons and then went along for the movie ride. If Shatner's Kirk and Nimoy's Spock (along with Kelly's McCoy) did not ingratiate itself into the American viewers life, his career would have been very limited. Once he realizes this, he should appologize to Shatner for his bad behavior over the years.

If we're going by bananas, Scotty would be number four and the remaining three would be tied for a distant fifth. Never mind that four through seven were never even listed in the opening credits because they WEREN'T THE STARS OF THE SHOW.

Could you imagine thirty years from now the actor who played West on Heroes bitching about Hayden Panettiere and Jack Coleman stealing his spotlight?

zenophite October 23 2008 04:57 AM

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Aragorn wrote: (Post 2209250)
Could you imagine thirty years from now the actor who played West on Heroes bitching about Hayden Panettiere and Jack Coleman stealing his spotlight?

:lol:


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