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MyCylon September 13 2008 12:25 AM

Humor on nuBSG
 
I was just going through parts of the series and came across a scene in "Downloaded" which is hilarious, I think. It's typical of nuBSG's sense of humor, I think, and one of the things I love about the show.

I'll go into detail about the moment in question (as well as another scene that just came to mind) in just a moment. First, let me just say that I'd like to use this thread to list any moments on nuBSG that you think are really humorous. They can be similar to these or completely different. Whatever brings a smile to your face while watching.

Anyway, on to some examples of my own...

The scene I was talking about above is the one near the end of "Downloaded" where Sharon, Six, D'Ana, and Anders are trapped and waiting to be rescued. Anders tries to shoot D'Ana but she manages to get out of the way, and Sharon disarms Anders.
D'Ana then picks up the gun, points it at Anders (obviously about to shoot him) and says: "God loves me". Next thing, you see Six coming up in behind with a big chunk of concrete and just slamming it on D'Ana's head.

I think it's absolutely hilarious the way that moment is played. Yes, it's very violent, but I simply love the irony and the contrast of D'Ana's lofty spiritual musings with the very mundane and literally hard nature of a piece of concrete.

There's another scene that's similar, in a sense, in "Rapture". I think it's also very funny because it has the same kind of contrast (Baltar is hoping to find out if he's a Cylon and thus one of God's chosen ones, apparently, only to get hit on the head by a gun whose physical nature is in no doubt at all).

I think you've just got to love a moment that goes:
Baltar: "God, tell me the truth before I die!"
Tyroll: "Welcome home, Mr. President." *whack*

species5618 September 13 2008 01:00 AM

Re: Humor on nuBSG
 
I love nBSG, I think it's one of the best shows on television and perhaps the greatest science fiction television series ever produced. That said, I've never felt that humour was nBSG's strong suit.

I think the majority of the humour on BSG seems to revolve around Baltar and the various sticky situations he seems to land himself in--things like "no more Mr. Nice Gaius" were pretty funny, but overall the show's grim tone isn't really suited to humour. A show like Buffy for instance was far better equipped to bring the funny than nBSG is.

The way Buffy would shift gears from humour to tragedy to action is an approach that works well for that show, but would be an absolute disaster on nBSG.

Anyway, that's just my thoughts on the subject. Good thread topic, though!

David cgc September 13 2008 04:09 AM

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I thought head-Baltar was the funniest thing in "Downloaded," though "See you soon!" was pretty good, too. I mean, when he, Three and Six all sit down on the bench and match posture or, my personal favorite, when Six glances at him and admits she has some issues to Three, he nods emphatically with this wonderful expression of sardonic sympathy.

Harvey September 13 2008 05:17 AM

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Head Baltar and Real Baltar's conversation with each other early on in season four was great. A shame they're not doing much more with that dynamic.

Temis the Vorta September 13 2008 07:18 AM

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Quote:

I've never felt that humour was nBSG's strong suit.
Ditto. And the subject matter shouldn't preclude effective dark humor. Just look at Dexter - a show with a serial killer as the main character, it's often hilarious.

MyCylon September 13 2008 10:05 AM

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species5618 wrote: (Post 2063296)
The way Buffy would shift gears from humour to tragedy to action is an approach that works well for that show, but would be an absolute disaster on nBSG.

I totally agree with this sentiment. The one time where nuBSG DID try, well, almost a type of comedy episode - "Tigh me up, Tigh me down" - it arguably didn't work very well. Fortunately, they've never tried that again.

Having said that, I think there's lots of humor on nuBSG but it's not about switching from one to the other. It's about finding the humor in the characters and/or in the moment. The two scenes I quoted, I think, are good examples of this.


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David cgc wrote: (Post 2063794)
I thought head-Baltar was the funniest thing in "Downloaded," though "See you soon!" was pretty good, too. I mean, when he, Three and Six all sit down on the bench and match posture or, my personal favorite, when Six glances at him and admits she has some issues to Three, he nods emphatically with this wonderful expression of sardonic sympathy.

Head Baltar was terrific in "Downloaded", I agree. That scene, in particular, was excellent and very funny at the same time. One line I always remember is this one from Head Baltar (on the idea of boxing the entire line of D'Ana's model):
"One might almost call it inhuman...oh, that's right, you are" *smirks*

The line itself is funny but it's Callis's delivery that really does the trick.


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Hirogen Alpha wrote: (Post 2063977)
Head Baltar and Real Baltar's conversation with each other early on in season four was great. A shame they're not doing much more with that dynamic.

I agree. That conversation was terrific indeed. I am wondering, though, what the explanation for the Head Sixes and Baltars is going to be. They broke the simple (and quite beautiful IMHO) duality of Baltar's and Six's respective Head Person in this scene, and I wonder what that means. We'll just have to wait and see. But it's really funny alright :D.


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Temis the Vorta wrote: (Post 2064163)
Ditto. And the subject matter shouldn't preclude effective dark humor. Just look at Dexter - a show with a serial killer as the main character, it's often hilarious.

Well, I honestly don't think it does (preclude effective dark humor). I haven't seen Dexter so I can't compare but I think there's many examples of really effective dark humor on nuBSG. Here's one (Downloaded, again):

Baltar: "What are you suggesting? That we throw it out an airlock?"
Roslin: "I don't make suggestions Mr Baltar. If I want to toss a baby out an airlock, I'd say so."

marplanauta September 13 2008 07:02 PM

Re: Humor on nuBSG
 
Cavil is often vey funny, like when he said:

"Take me to your leader"

Harvey September 13 2008 09:00 PM

Re: Humor on nuBSG
 
I had forgotten Cavil. Dean Stockwell brings a delicious layer of sarcasm to the role. A shame he hasn't been used more often (although, like Garak, he'd probably feel overused if he was used more often).

The Sneeze Police September 13 2008 09:05 PM

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I am in the minority in that I liked "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down".

Cavil is the most humorous character. Baltar aggravates me too much for me to find much humor in him.

MyCylon September 13 2008 11:42 PM

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Cavil is terrific in that regard, that's true. Two other scenes that come to mind:

- One Cavil is proclaiming he's not a Cylon until he seems himself, becomes quiet and just goes: "Oh, well, okay then."
- Cavil and the other Cylons come aboard Galactica with Baltar and Cavil offers to "...throw in Baltar". When D'Ana calls him on it, he responds that he's improvising.

species5618 September 14 2008 12:13 AM

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Hirogen Alpha wrote: (Post 2065792)
I had forgotten Cavil. Dean Stockwell brings a delicious layer of sarcasm to the role. A shame he hasn't been used more often (although, like Garak, he'd probably feel overused if he was used more often).

I'd forgotten about him as well. He is one of the more humourous characters, but in a dry subtle way, not in a conventionally 'funny' way. I loved his reaction in the scene at the end of season 2 (LDYB part 2 I think) where he's walked into Galactica's brig protesting he's not a Cylon, only to find another Cavil sitting in a cell.

TEH BABA September 14 2008 01:14 AM

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We'd be greated with flowers was great lol.

stonester1 September 14 2008 11:36 AM

Re: Humor on nuBSG
 
The humor on BSG is often more subtle, that is, they don't telegraph the joke, and if you aren't watching carefully or don't know the show, you may miss it.

It's often dry, wry and played with the volume turned down. It's "naturalistic", if you will. Written situationally, coincidentally.

It is rather unique, and works for the show.

Subjective September 14 2008 07:09 PM

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My favourite comedy moment was the food shortage/paper shortage scene between Adama and Tigh. I was right there in stitches with both of them, just laughing my head off.

Agent Richard07 September 14 2008 09:18 PM

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stonester1 wrote: (Post 2067699)
The humor on BSG is often more subtle, that is, they don't telegraph the joke, and if you aren't watching carefully or don't know the show, you may miss it.

It's often dry, wry and played with the volume turned down. It's "naturalistic", if you will. Written situationally, coincidentally.

It is rather unique, and works for the show.

I think that says it right there. Plus, Baltar and his antics have been good for some comic relief.


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