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K'riq Sa May 28 2008 11:47 PM

Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
As some of you know I am currently producing a fanflick "Starfleet Rangers: Alpha Colony Mars" and I am in the midst of designing the bridge for the S.S. New York.

http://66.39.114.178/Graphics/x-101-no4.jpg


I have no preconceived notions about what I want, as I have just started the process. The ship was commissioned into service 2105. Any ideas and contributions will be noted and credited.


More info can be found here
http://starfleetmngmt.proboards38.co...play&thread=24

The final version will be used to build the full size bridge set for the series, due to start production in 2 weeks with preliminary Sfx location plates shots.




interstichily,

K'riq Sa
Minister of the Church

K'riq Sa May 28 2008 11:59 PM

Re: Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Here is a drawing of a runabout I did that I would think would be somewhat of the configeration I would imagine it would have only a little larger. The viewport would be better served if it were mono rather than broken up into two side-by side. The space looks rectagularish, and I wouldn't rule out a pool table, it just seems like it would eat up valuable space on such a small wessel.

http://66.39.114.178/AdvancedAcademy...unabout-1a.jpg




cepicolly,

K'riq Sa
Minister of the Church of the Crystal Gulls

Timo May 29 2008 01:27 PM

Re: Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Since there's a definite "Steam Trek" look to the ship design, the bridge might reflect 19th century thinking as well.

Those "classic" bridges atop the superstructure near the bow of a ship, spanning the entire beam of the vessel and including the wheelhouse, are a fairly recent invention first adopted in steam-powered warships in the late 19th century, to afford the commanding officers a view unobstructed by the smokestacks and other new stuff cluttering the deck.

Your ship certainly has lots of visual obstructions, but the internal layout of the bridge can't help much with that. Still, it might be fun to go with a very linear layout, essentially a long corridor with one wall consisting of that row of six windows. The captain would pace the corridor, where a steering pulpit would dominate the center, and a number of seated workstations or pedestals would spread symmetrically to left and right. And perhaps the main viewscreen would be against the aft bulkhead, analogous to a map stapled to the wall?

Such a unique setup might give added value to a fan film project, too.

Timo Saloniemi

B.J. May 29 2008 02:58 PM

Re: Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
I'm with Timo on this one. Definitely mirror the 19th century inspired design with the design of your bridge.

K'riq Sa May 30 2008 02:55 AM

More Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Quote:

Timo wrote: (Post 1687447)
Since there's a definite "Steam Trek" look to the ship design, the bridge might reflect 19th century thinking as well.

Those "classic" bridges atop the superstructure near the bow of a ship, spanning the entire beam of the vessel and including the wheelhouse, are a fairly recent invention first adopted in steam-powered warships in the late 19th century, to afford the commanding officers a view unobstructed by the smokestacks and other new stuff cluttering the deck.

Your ship certainly has lots of visual obstructions, but the internal layout of the bridge can't help much with that. Still, it might be fun to go with a very linear layout, essentially a long corridor with one wall consisting of that row of six windows. The captain would pace the corridor, where a steering pulpit would dominate the center, and a number of seated workstations or pedestals would spread symmetrically to left and right. And perhaps the main viewscreen would be against the aft bulkhead, analogous to a map stapled to the wall?

Such a unique setup might give added value to a fan film project, too.

Timo Saloniemi


Here is some info from the designer Albertese...

Interesting. So are you planing to build two bridge sets or having one to redress as the different ships? I've had a chance to do some drawings of what I had in mind for the bridge of the ship as i originally designed it. (unfortunately still no progress on getting my own computer fixed, so i can't really show you what I'm talking about.)

The bridge as i am conceiving it would be about 20'x30' with a real cozy ready room and conference room on either side (port and starboard) which would make the whole set more like 30'x40' IIRC (again, I'm at my buddy's house to use the computer so I don't have the drawing in front of me). Not knowing exactly what you're using as a stage area, I don't know if that would fit your space or not.

Some ideas I might be able to describe:

Flat Walls.
Even if you do go with a round bridge, you should make it out of flat sections. If you look at Kirk's bridge, it was made almost totally of flat panels, even though it seemed round. In fact the only curved panels were on the ceiling fairings and even those were only curved in one axis. This will make it fit well with trek continuity as well as be quicker and easier to build by you and your crew.

Captain's Chair:
I would put more displays immediately around the captain's seat. Almost like what Sisko had around his seat on the Defiant, but a little more substantial. The chair itself ought to be more like Archer's and less like Kirk's.

Helm Console:
I would make a one seat station out of this, not too unlike Mayweather's station on NX-01. One idea I had that I think would set it apart from other bridges would be to have an overhead console as well. This would have displays on it, but I'm not seeing actual controls given that it'd not be in convenient reach for whoever is sitting there. This would help to break up the space of the room and make it seem kind of cluttered. I think that a more "stuff-in-the-way" look like in a submarine would lend itself to the era you're trying to represent.

Viewscreen/Windows:
I like the idea of windows on the front, but I thought it would be cool for the captain to have a smallish (30" or so) viewscreen mounted to the ceiling that would serve all the same functions of the viewscreen we're familiar with from the other shows.



just some info I thought you might like to have.





suddenly,

K'riq Sa
Minister of the Church of Complete Bladder Relief

K'riq Sa June 1 2008 07:26 AM

Re: More Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Here is a shot of the NX bridge...




and here is a 3d pictograph...

http://66.39.114.178/DATA/nx01-bridge1b.jpg



seemingly,

K'riq Sa
Minister of the Church of Erratic Behavior

K'riq Sa June 8 2008 02:14 AM

Re: More Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Here is a drawing of the ship with 3 different angles, for reference.


http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/976/xclass3view6lo.jpg





mostly,

K'riq Sa
Minister of the Church of the Minimum Requirement

Ziz June 8 2008 05:31 AM

Re: More Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Do you have any kind of floorplan or layout of at least the key sections of the ship? Knowing how/where the bridge fits physically into the ship will both help and dictate how to design it.

hellsgate June 9 2008 10:11 PM

Re: More Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
http://66.39.114.178/AdvancedAcademy...unabout-1a.jpg

Actually, that looks like it would work for a Xenon-Class or small assault craft a-la the Talon/Venture-Class, or even the Maquis' modified Peregrine. WAY Nice!!! But, what's that seat for, located in the back compartment?

FalTorPan June 10 2008 01:36 PM

Re: More Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Quote:

hellsgate wrote: (Post 1724630)
But, what's that seat for, located in the back compartment?

That's where Vice Admiral Granny Clampett sits.

B.J. June 10 2008 02:08 PM

Re: Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
^:guffaw:

K'riq Sa June 11 2008 03:39 AM

Re: Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
You saw the script?.....








unnecessarly,

K'riq Sa
Minister of the Church of Flagrant Misbehaving

K'riq Sa December 16 2008 04:46 AM

Re: Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Hey I'm still looking for some help designing the bridge for this class of ship. any takers?...




k'irq

hellsgate December 16 2008 07:43 PM

Re: Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
Put an MSD "pool table" or normal MSD in the back compartment, (or on the wall consoles of one of the side stations,) where Admiral Granny Clampett sits & get rid of the chair located in the back compartment. Maybe make the back compartment into a turbolift to the lower decks. Just my $0.02

K'riq Sa December 18 2008 06:26 PM

Re: Bridge Ideas/Help SS New York...
 
I like the idea of the MSD, on the wall in the back. makes sensense...

i don't know about the doors though.

layout? hey i'm a filmmaker, i can tell you where i will place the camera to get great shots, however a layout drawing not so much....




k'riq


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