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jeetervarul2 January 21 2008 01:32 AM

Time Travel method in Trek XI- possible
 
SO I was surfing this afternoon, just me alone with my thoughts and the waves. I was thinking about Star Trek and something Robert Orci said about time travel in the film. He said the it would not be the Guardian of Forever, but something fans would get and understand.

About that moment a large wave loomed before me and I got into position, the wave hit me with such force and propelled me with such speed that I almost fell off, but managed to reposition myslef and stand up. Thats when it hit me......The famous Slingshot Effect. Yes the method of time travel used in Trek IV, and some TOS episodes.

Could it be? Would there be any offense to cannon? What if a aged Spock desperate to get back in time, used this method? It makes sense as it is a "logical" method that even he himself knows works. What do you all think?

Samuel T. Cogley January 21 2008 01:36 AM

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Why don't they just go to maximum warp and then slingshot around William Shatner?

scotthm January 21 2008 01:37 AM

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^I think I would like the movie better if it didn't include backward time travel in the plot.

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M January 21 2008 01:37 AM

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Maybe he will just use the same method that Eric Bana's Romulan Nero will use to get to the past. Whichever this will be. Maybe even the Romulans use the slingshot effect. We'll see ...

I for one think the less is explained about the method the better. Just something that everyone would get. It really should just be the means to craft the story. So the technicality shouldn't be that important.

archeryguy1701 January 21 2008 01:38 AM

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It would be possible... the only thought I'm having is that if old Spock goes back in time, he would either need to bring a whole crew of other people with him or he needs to steal an entire starship pretty much on his own. The reason I'm thinking that is because a shuttle or a runabout or some other single person vessel probably won't be able to get fast enough or be strong enough to survive the gravitational pull.

Kaziarl January 21 2008 01:39 AM

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If I remember right, the slingshot that happened by accident in TOS was noted by the crew to be the first time it had ever happened. So the idea to do it in the movie is possibly against cannon. Now they might have come up with something else, the Nexus has been charted several times for example according to dialog from ST:Generations.

M January 21 2008 01:43 AM

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Kaziarl said:
If I remember right, the slingshot that happened by accident in TOS was noted by the crew to be the first time it had ever happened. So the idea to do it in the movie is possibly against cannon. Now they might have come up with something else, the Nexus has been charted several times for example according to dialog from ST:Generations.

Somehow I doubt that we will really see the Nexus in the new movie. Nobody but fans would recognize it. And as Ronald D. Moore and Brannon Braga so funnily admit on the commentary track of GENERATIONS: The idea of the Nexus doesn't really make the slightest sense. So easily Spock could use it to stop Nero using it in the first place ...

archeryguy1701 January 21 2008 01:43 AM

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Quote:

Kaziarl said:
If I remember right, the slingshot that happened by accident in TOS was noted by the crew to be the first time it had ever happened. So the idea to do it in the movie is possibly against cannon. Now they might have come up with something else, the Nexus has been charted several times for example according to dialog from ST:Generations.

But Nero would be coming from the future, so it wouldn't be breaking cannon. And then, one could argue that just because good old Mr. Spock thought it was the first time, deosn't mean it was. It just means that previous times were either undocumented or they were unable to make it back to their own time.

Jackson_Roykirk January 21 2008 02:39 AM

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Samuel T. Cogley said:
Why don't they just go to maximum warp and then slingshot around William Shatner?

His mass (and his awesomeness) is too great...there's no way even Scotty could figure out how to break free.

Samuel T. Cogley January 21 2008 02:40 AM

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Jackson_Roykirk said:
...there's no way even Scotty could figure out how to break free.

Who would ever want to break free?

Admiral Buzzkill January 21 2008 02:45 AM

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Marcy Lafferty?

Samuel T. Cogley January 21 2008 02:52 AM

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She'll be back.

Admiral Buzzkill January 21 2008 02:54 AM

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The whole time-travel thing is done by Spock turning out to be "Future Guy" fighting time-traveling Romulans in some kind of "temporal Cold War."

Samuel T. Cogley January 21 2008 02:56 AM

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They could make a whole series based on that! :drool:

Kegek January 21 2008 02:57 AM

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Starship Polaris said:
The whole time-travel thing is done by Spock turning out to be "Future Guy" fighting time-traveling Romulans in some kind of "temporal Cold War."

Too dated. Make it War on Temporal Terrorism.


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