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Dulak November 10 2007 10:01 PM

Menagerie, re-mastered on the Big Screen
I don't usually post to this list, as I primarily post my Shepard stories on the Fan Fiction section.

Just wanted everyone who doesn't already know that there will be a special showing of the High-Definition re-mastered version of the Menagerie, you know the TOS two part episode incorporating footage from the original pilot with Captain Pike into a court martial of Spock.

It's the 13th, but check your local listings. Seems like most theaters are adding extra shows.

I'm going, probably be the best Trek movie of 2007.

Gkar November 13 2007 12:03 PM

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This is freaking sweet news!!!

Therin of Andor November 13 2007 12:32 PM

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Tuesday, November 27, 6:45 PM and 9:30 PM are the times for Sydney, Australia's screenings at the Hayden Orpheum Picture Palace at Cremorne.

Learn more here:

Peach Wookiee November 13 2007 03:22 PM

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Methinks this belongs in the TOS forum...

T'Cal November 13 2007 06:25 PM

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It's being shown tonight and Thursday. I'm there for both.

Shatinator November 13 2007 08:04 PM

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I'll let you know in 4 hrs 28 mins : )

SPOCKED November 13 2007 08:42 PM

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Elmo and I are leaving for the Hyannis area within the hour for the show tonight. Can't believe it's actually here ;)

nickyboy November 13 2007 10:31 PM

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just got back from the one in Manchester, it was ok, the effects look cool, great story, the documentary was disapointing. plus it was steep at 10. but it was a 1 off.

Ghostface1701 November 13 2007 11:59 PM

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I just got back from the very busy show in London. Lots of "oohs" and laughs (some unintentional). I got in for free, but paid for my wife, who had a good time as well.

TOS-R looks fantastic on a big screen, the quality of the new effects and the cleaned-up footage holds up well. I even noticed something new about The Cage. Several of the crew members have injuries from the previous mission that dialogue implies became a fierce battle. One of the bridge crew has his hand bandaged, a Landing Party member has a dressing on his neck, and Spock himself is limping! I'm surprised I never noticed this before.

The cleaned-up footage on the big screen also had an unintended affect. The line of Shatner's hairpiece was clearly visible on one close-up! :lol:

SPOCKED November 14 2007 03:32 AM

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Just got home and loved the show. It's the best way to see TOSr, that's for sure. We had a moderate crowd - actually more people than I expected, and some young kids too (one little girl in her TNG uniform). Great Enterprise rumble with lots of ooohs and aaaaaahs from a very happy crowd :)

rgb1701 November 14 2007 04:01 AM

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I just returned home from the Livonia, Michigan showing.

A coworker and his wife came along with my wife. The show was sold out, but it was a smallish theater in a typical 20 screen megaplex.

While I had fun watching Menagerie on a big public screen with other fans, I was disappointed with the "extras" and the technical presentation.

As far as I could tell, most of the "extras", except for Rodenberry's son, have been at

for weeks, which I watched weeks ago. Dingleberry, er, Son of Rodenberry, didn't say anything I hadn't heard before- he would have been interesting had he contributed new tidbits for us LONG time fans who've Heard It All.

The digital projector they used in our venue had FAR too little resolution- it was at most a 1024x768 XGA projector- I counted and estimated the pixels, which were easily visible from our seats. My home Epson Cinema 400 puts out more resolution and contrast than what they used. I looked back at the projection booth, and saw they used a boardroom-style LCD projector, sitting next to the (what I assume was) the film projector. I was expecting a commercial grade DLP or DILA, or 1080p LCD.

While the "remastered' FX were nice, the "restored" film elements were FAR from fully "cleaned up"- FAR too often I still saw dirt and scratches in the image, obviously from the original film media.

I would not buy into another of these events unless I was assured of the technical presentation quality, though it was fun to watch with appreciating peers ;).

God Magnus November 14 2007 04:37 AM

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I just got back from this myself and it was a treat. I loved seeing the new fx on the big screen, and frankly, I hadn't realized how much I've realized seeing the Enterprise on the big screen until now.

One annoying thing. Three of the guys behind me were not fans of the new CG effects, and that's fine - but every single time one came on they had to make a comment. I had to shush them. You can have your opinion, but I paid money to see this, don't ruin other people's experiences because you can't stay quiet during a movie.

Matt November 14 2007 04:52 AM

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Man was my showing dark. AMC really needs to upgrade their screens and projectors. Talk about garbage.

I think the projectors are all digital now, and low res, because you can see pixels and they're like each the size of a dollar bill folded in half. It'd be nice if the $12.50 ticket got me a clear "HD" viewing.

The film still needs a lot of work. So much for remastered. Tons of easily fixable scratches, especially in part 2. The whole intro of part 2 wasn't HD, neither was it restored. Wow...

All in all it was a great time, though. Everyone laughed a lot. "THE WOMEN!" got a huge roar of laughter from everyone. All Trekkies. The theater was packed, and I imagine the next showing will be as well.

I saw at least two girls dressed up. One in a TNG Ops uniform, and the other in what appeared to be a TOS operations (red) miniskirt uniform, but I only saw her out of my peripheral vision... It appeared to have Captain braids on the sleeves, but we nerds know this is impossible since a.) In TOS you had to be in command division, and b.) No women Captains.

thollian November 14 2007 05:21 AM

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it was awesome watching it on the big screen, plus talking with some local Trekkers (Trekkie's)...

It was worth it for me, plus getting to see it in HD on a really big screen with surround sound was really nice. But yeah it was advertisement in way to get you to buy the HD DVDs, but thats fine....I still enjoyed watching the episode.

CaptainDonovin November 14 2007 05:33 AM

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Saw it tonight in Brooklyn Center, MN (north of Minneapolis) and loved it. I'd say 3/4 full with a mix of ages and more women than I expected which was nice to see. :bolian:

The Enterprise looked awesome up there, and I loved the looks of the season 2 effects I saw, The Doomsday Machine would look fantastic on the big screen. I did see what rgb1701 saw, dirt and scratches but I would still go for another show if it came out. I just wouldn't spend the $13 on snacks.

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