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MauriceNavidad June 7 2014 12:21 AM

Star Trek II: The God Thing
 
Ryan Thomas Riddle (aka Middyseafort) pointed out that the Mission Log podcast site has posted the first 20 pages of Roddenberry's 1975 "Star Trek II" script (link). Interesting to see how much of what starts there ended up in TMP.

BillJ June 7 2014 12:25 AM

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Thanks for the link!

Sir Rhosis June 7 2014 12:52 AM

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Thanks, indeed. Look forward to reading it.

Sir Rhosis

Firebird June 7 2014 03:59 AM

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Great googa-mooga, I NEVER thought any of that script would ever see the light of day! This is a monumental find. I'm eager to find out if more will ever be posted, naturally.

WarpFactorZ June 7 2014 04:53 AM

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That's an awful script... Lucky for ST it never saw the light of day.

Nebusj June 7 2014 07:31 AM

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Man, Gene Roddenberry must've been in pretty dire straits by 1975 to be writing Trek fanfic like this …

I'm curious about Ical and the decision to bump Chekov up to First Officer that early on. It suggests an idea, at least to start the movie with, of swapping out about half the regulars, and that's not a bad notion.

MauriceNavidad June 7 2014 09:30 AM

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Screenplays often read badly if you're not used to reading them.

What we've seen certainly isn't great but there are germs of some good ideas and visually interesting sequences. It suffers from TV-itis in that it's much too talky, which drags it down.

Hopefully someone will eventually post the rest of it so we can see if the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

BillJ June 7 2014 12:21 PM

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You can definitely see elements of what would become The Motion Picture in there.

Allyn Gibson June 7 2014 02:43 PM

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Nebusj wrote: (Post 9672355)
I'm curious about Ical and the decision to bump Chekov up to First Officer that early on. It suggests an idea, at least to start the movie with, of swapping out about half the regulars, and that's not a bad notion.

In one unofficial reference book I read in the 90s, it said that Paramount wasn't sure that the television cast could carry a film and they wanted a cast with people like Robert Redford. Carrying over a handful of cast from the television series and bringing in a new cast would be a way of accomplishing that.

I'm curious who "RF" mentioned on the title page is. A producer? Someone at Paramount, surely.

My snap reaction to the first twenty pages is that it's slow, dull, and talky. The Captain's Log infodump is terrible; we've already had a dull, talky scene with Spock, and now we follow it with Kirk talking to himself. For that matter, the dialogue in general is terrible. Plus, nothing happens for the first ten or twelve pages, and the major action takes place off-stage. I'm not hooked by this.

Obviously, there's still a lot of script to go -- I'd assume about 100 pages on the "one page per minute" rule -- so it's not really fair to judge what may be an unrepresentative sample. If this is representative, though, I would have passed on the script at this point. Maybe it could be salvaged with another, tighter draft, one from another writer.

Sir Rhosis June 7 2014 06:59 PM

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My first thought as well was that this would have been a MOW, had it been filmed as written. Still, it was a helluva thrill to get to read it and be "back" in 1975 for a moment, contemplating Trek as it was then. Sir Rhosis

F. King Daniel June 7 2014 07:39 PM

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"Earthyear 2231.71". Fascinating.:vulcan:

Leto_II June 7 2014 08:18 PM

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Got a kick out of the transporter-accident, right near the end of the sample -- you can identify several story-elements that survived all the way through Harold Livingston's drafts into The Motion Picture itself.

Ar-Pharazon June 7 2014 10:37 PM

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How does the novelization compare to the script?

BillJ June 7 2014 11:04 PM

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Ar-Pharazon wrote: (Post 9674230)
How does the novelization compare to the script?

Novelization?

LMFAOschwarz June 8 2014 12:00 AM

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Sir Rhosis wrote: (Post 9673750)
Still, it was a helluva thrill to get to read it and be "back" in 1975 for a moment, contemplating Trek as it was then. Sir Rhosis

So true. Those were fun days, weren't they? So much of it existed in our imaginations only, and somehow just having the original series made less seem like more, somehow! There were so many questions we had, and we each had our own answers, all of which were just as valid as the others. :)

Even the typewritten pages evoke the times!

Thanks, Maurice!


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