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Shaka Zulu May 15 2014 12:05 PM

Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
Basically, Sony has confirmed that the black version of Spider-Man (from Ultimate Spider-Man) won't ever be in any future movies made by Sony, as they want to keep it the story of Peter Parker. Naturally, this is pissing people off, as one can see by the Tweets made by this article's author: (Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales)

Personally, although I love the idea, I think that Miles should be exposed a little bit more to the wider public beyond the readers of Ultimate Spider-Man before millions are spent on a movie featuring him, but that's just me. Anybody else think the same thing?

Tosk May 15 2014 12:18 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
It's not racism. It's no different to Sony (Avi) saying, "You'll never see Ben Reilly as Spider-Man."

Edit: I hadn't clicked yet, now I have. The question also included Ben Reilly and Miguel O’Hara, so that's that. How can somehow honestly claim racism at the Miles (and Miguel) shut-out without just conveniently ignoring Ben Reilly? To clarify; we will never see an identical, white clone of Peter Parker as Spider-Man on film. Racists!

Robert Maxwell May 15 2014 12:38 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
This sort of reasoning is a catch-22. You don't see a lot of superhero/comic book movies featuring central characters as people of color, because they aren't popular in the comics, and they aren't popular in the comics because comics have long been a predominantly white medium, so no one reaches that level of popularity to justify making a film.

Then again, you've got black people getting cast as the Storms in the new Fantastic Four movie, so maybe one day we'll get a black Peter Parker, too. ;)

Allyn Gibson May 15 2014 12:41 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
I would question whether or not Sony would have the rights to Miles Morales as a specific character in the first place. The movie rights were sold to Columbia (who was then bought by Sony) back in the 90s, and I harbor doubts that the contract would be worded so vaguely that Sony would automatically hold the rights to a character created within the last five years.

Tosk May 15 2014 12:44 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
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Robert Maxwell wrote: (Post 9583987)
Then again, you've got black people getting cast as the Storms in the new Fantastic Four movie, so maybe one day we'll get a black Peter Parker, too. ;)

I would much rather see Miles as Spidey than just "making Peter black". What I really want to see though, is a Black Panther movie. C'mon already!

JarodRussell May 15 2014 12:52 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
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Robert Maxwell wrote: (Post 9583987)
Then again, you've got black people getting cast as the Storms in the new Fantastic Four movie, so maybe one day we'll get a black Peter Parker, too. ;)

Except for skin color, what would be the difference? Have black Peter Parker beat up racists just to make a point?

Mr Light May 15 2014 12:57 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
That'd be hilarious if Marvel owned the rights to Miles Morales, so they could put HIM in the Avengers films but not Peter Parker :lol:

Alidar Jarok May 15 2014 01:03 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
I have no problem with the movie version of Spider-Man being Peter Parker. I think that has to do with other things besides race.

Given a little more time to get her established, I'd love to see Kamela Khan, though.

Locutus of Bored May 15 2014 01:10 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
I don't think this is a racial issue so much as it is an issue that when people think of Spider-Man, they mostly think of Peter Parker. Maybe in a while Miles Morales will supplant or rival Parker in name recognition among casual fans that you need to have a decent box office take, and then they would reconsider the decision.

JarodRussell May 15 2014 01:11 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
I wonder what they would be saying had Warner Bros. continued The Dark Knight with Joseph Gordon Lewitt's character, as that was the whole point about the new Batman franchise, that anyone, not only Bruce Wayne, can be Batman.

Robert Maxwell May 15 2014 02:03 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
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JarodRussell wrote: (Post 9584014)
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Robert Maxwell wrote: (Post 9583987)
Then again, you've got black people getting cast as the Storms in the new Fantastic Four movie, so maybe one day we'll get a black Peter Parker, too. ;)

Except for skin color, what would be the difference? Have black Peter Parker beat up racists just to make a point?

You might as well ask what's the difference in having non-white actors in movies to begin with.

JarodRussell May 15 2014 02:12 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
The thing is, Peter Parker is such a neutral character, his skin color makes no difference.

Black Superman would be very different. A black kid ("adopted" by white parents perhaps?) growing up in a small town in Kansas...

Gaith May 15 2014 02:42 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
If we're ever to have a non-PP Spider-Man at the movies, I vote for a female Spider-Person. Could be a black female Spider-Woman; why not. But I don't read comics, so I can't say as I care about this Morales fellow.

Allyn Gibson May 15 2014 02:48 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
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Mr Light wrote: (Post 9584035)
That'd be hilarious if Marvel owned the rights to Miles Morales, so they could put HIM in the Avengers films but not Peter Parker :lol:

He would have to have a different code name -- Arachnid, Iron Spider, something that wasn't "Spider-Man." But then it would get tricky, because Sony could argue in court that Marvel was diluting their film rights to an arachnid-powered super-hero.

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JarodRussell wrote: (Post 9584092)
I wonder what they would be saying had Warner Bros. continued The Dark Knight with Joseph Gordon Lewitt's character, as that was the whole point about the new Batman franchise, that anyone, not only Bruce Wayne, can be Batman.

I wish Warners had rolled the dice and at least tried a John Blake Batman movie, just to see if it would work.

Set Harth May 15 2014 02:50 PM

Re: Race & Spider-Man: Sony Confirms a Glass Ceiling for Miles Morales
 
"Aren't you a little short to be Batman?"


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