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Botany Bay May 11 2014 06:34 AM

Episode of the Week : The Menagerie Parts 1 and 2
 
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BillJ May 11 2014 01:56 PM

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7.

Solid outing and the only way to see "The Cage" footage for a really long time. Incorporating the footage gave the series a sense of history that might not have been there otherwise.

MikeH92467 May 11 2014 04:10 PM

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The plot holes keep it from being a 10, but the concept and execution were superb and gave an interesting glimpse at what might have been.

The Dead Mixer May 11 2014 04:13 PM

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I think that this thread should have a simpler voting option--1 beep for yes, 2 beeps for no.

BillJ May 11 2014 04:30 PM

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The Old Mixer wrote: (Post 9570106)
I think that this thread should have a simpler voting option--1 beep for yes, 2 beeps for no.

:lol:

feek61 May 11 2014 06:50 PM

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Voted a solid 8, not a great episode but the inclusion of the pilot episode makes this one a classic. One thing about this is that in some respects I like the edit of "The Cage" parts better in "The Menagerie" than I do in the full "The Cage." The fight with the Kalar edit is much better in "The Menagerie." In "The Cage" it always drives me crazy when Pike knocks the Kalar down the stairs and then Vina and Pike sit there and have a conversation instead of running. Not so in "The Menagerie" version.

The Dead Mixer May 12 2014 01:43 AM

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The framing story is contrived but the inclusion of "The Cage" elevates it to a great episode in the Trek canon. Back in the day you didn't have the option to see watch the full version of "The Cage", and borrowing "The Menagerie" from the library and being quite intrigued by the "Cage" aspects of the episode was a significant step on my path to becoming a Trek fan. I give this episode one resounding beep.

CrazyMatt May 12 2014 02:15 AM

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9. An excellent outing that may have saved Star Trek by preventing multiple missed delivery dates. Shatner's portrayal of Kirk shines in comparison to grumpy Jeff Hunter.

GourdShipCapt'n May 12 2014 02:22 AM

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Not grumpy, just bored. :p

Mr. Spook May 12 2014 02:40 PM

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Love this one. The framing story is wonderfully detailed and executed. In an era when just sitting around and reminiscing would be an excuse for a clip show (or in the case of Irwin Allen, just writing in the stock footage), great care of taken to show how this story fit into Trek’s continuity and how it was STILL a story about Kirk – even though Kirk didn’t exist when The Cage was filmed.

Easily my favorite exchange in the episode, if not the series, is between Kirk and Bones about suspecting Spock. The music choices and the actors’ performances are top grade. McCoy, for the first time, sides with Spock and is totally wrong. Kirk won’t let his friendship with the Vulcan color his judgment, which is a great piece of characterization. Often, when this episode was rerun in my market, it was a big deal. “See Star Trek’s only two part episode! At a special time! The Menagerie on 11 Alive!”

Plot holes? Sure. Great entertainment? Absolutely! A solid 9.

mb22 May 13 2014 03:09 AM

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ssosmcin wrote: (Post 9572767)
Often, when this episode was rerun in my market, it was a big deal. “See Star Trek’s only two part episode! At a special time! The Menagerie on 11 Alive!”.

Those were the times when the station left out the teaser and credits for Part II and the audience got to see scenes normally cut in syndication.

Pauln6 May 13 2014 08:02 AM

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I love the menagerie so much I had to give it a 10. I don't like the death penalty malarky and the trial barely holds water but I love Number One and the Talosians. Vina is one of my top 10 sci fi heroines. She is an intelligent, well-rounded character, and so much better than many of the camp bimbos we got as officers and crewmen in the later shows.

Armored Saint May 13 2014 04:42 PM

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The part 2 is weaker. Why the hearing suddenly resumes with only Kirk, Pike, Mendez and Spock? It doesn't help the trial setting at all. I think a shorter introduction could have allowed to have a better developed conclusion. On the other hand, it was a touchy and ambitious exercise, so it couldn't be perfect and it remains a really great contribution to the Star Trek's universe.
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BoredShipCapt'n wrote: (Post 9571687)
Not grumpy, just bored. :p

At least, it made him convincing as a Captain close to the burn out. :p

Grant May 13 2014 05:00 PM

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BoredShipCapt'n wrote: (Post 9571687)
Not grumpy, just bored. :p

Bored? Keep dreaming.

plynch May 13 2014 05:05 PM

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BEEP


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