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J. Allen May 2 2014 01:11 PM

MLP:FIM S4E24 - "Equestria Games" - Grading & Discussion
 
Episode Title: "Equestria Games"
Air Date: May 3rd, 2014

Summary: "Spike is elated when hes given the honor of lighting the torch to open the Equestria Games. But when his nerves get the best of him, Spike goes to great lengths to prove hes the heroic dragon others believe him to be."

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Ruminations:
Holy flurking shnit you guys, we're getting down to the wire. We've got the Equestria Games here. The EQUESTRIA GAMES is all up in this buzizzness! So Spike's going to light the Equestrian torch, eh? Sounds cool! He's nervous? Sounds like Spike! He's overconfident? Also sounds like Spike! So this is the second Spike episode, and the last episode before the *yay* hits the fan. Because we all know it will. So let's go get ourselves some Spikey goodness. To the Games!

Peach Wookiee May 3 2014 03:52 AM

Re: MLP:FIM S4E24 - "Equestria Games" - Grading & Discussion
 
I'm looking forward to it!

TayLaLaLa May 3 2014 03:54 AM

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Me too! :D

Peach Wookiee May 3 2014 04:21 PM

Re: MLP:FIM S4E24 - "Equestria Games" - Grading & Discussion
 
A for me! Will explain later.

DarkHorizon May 3 2014 05:04 PM

Re: MLP:FIM S4E24 - "Equestria Games" - Grading & Discussion
 
Loses a grade for the singing incident, and for largely skipping over the Games themselves. Still a good episode, with strong character moments. B.

Count Zero May 3 2014 06:10 PM

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They should have shown more from the Games themselves, and I disliked the fact that Ponyville actually won the medal count. It's far more difficult and thus interesting to tackle defeat.

I liked the Spike worship by the Crystal ponies. Not sure about Spike's storyline. In my opinion, it would have been more interesting if he had had to overcome his disappointment without another heroic deed and if he had been offered the opportunity with the fireworks after just explaining his issue to his friends.

Overall, a B.

Peach Wookiee May 3 2014 06:16 PM

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^Ponyville won the overall medal count, but it's pretty clear they didn't get gold in everything. Rainbow had a little growth here too in knowing that she wouldn't win and didn't resort to unfair advantage to try and do it as she did with AJ in season one.

Count Zero May 3 2014 06:23 PM

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Yes, I know what a medal count is. The Olympic one is very important in my country which is why I would have preferred Ponyville not to win but instead teach kids about how to deal with disappointment and defeat. The episode was about the former as far as Spike was concerned but didn't quite deliver in my opinion. Getting a shot at a heroic deed is not a very practical solution to theissue. ;)

Peach Wookiee May 3 2014 07:02 PM

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I also have to add that Twilight really seemed upset at not being able to sit with her friends this episode. At least with the Rainbow Falls swap meet, she could be with them.

SeerSGB May 3 2014 09:16 PM

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Good Spike episode, good episode overall. And tell me you weren't getting Nolan Batman vibes from the music during Spike's big moment.

J. Allen May 3 2014 10:10 PM

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Wheeeeeeee! I really enjoyed it. Spike is the type of dragon who is friendly, and capable, but sometimes makes mistakes at the worst possible moment. Of course, this was going to happen anyway, being a Spike episode, but I think they played it off very nicely. I felt his nervousness when he first stepped out in front of that crowd; thousands of cheering ponies, many of them seeing Spike as a national hero. Of course that's going to make one nervous!



If I have any complaints, it's that we didn't get to see enough of the games, and that I was hoping the Games would encompass the last three episodes.
All in all, though, a wonderful episode, and I gave it an "A."

J. Allen May 3 2014 10:57 PM

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Also, Spike is best Enrico Palazzo.

TayLaLaLa May 4 2014 02:03 AM

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A+

I thought it was an awesome EP!

Saito S May 4 2014 05:44 AM

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I'd have to say a B- or C+. I liked it, it was entertaining with some really great dialog and fun character moments, but I agree with some of the sentiment from upthread that the Spike story was a little shaky. I think an episode about the games would have been better served by being ABOUT the games; there was a ton of potentially interesting stuff going on in and around them, such as the games themselves (would have been cool to see more of the events), Dash's development, the Wonderbolts, Twilight sitting up in the Princess Skybox, etc. And the above mentioned fun character moments came mostly from everyone else; I would have loved to see more of the CMC, Snowflake, the 'bolts, etc. in the context of the games, after getting to see all of them preparing for their parts in the games earlier in the season. Instead it focused on this Spike storyline, which felt like it just sort of bounced from one part to the next between Games scenes (which is odd since, ostensibly, the Spike story was supposed to be the "A" plot, not the other way around.) And I agree with Count Zero that it might have been more interesting to see Spike resolve this without the opportunity for heroics.

So while I did enjoy watching it, I feel a little disappointed by it, particularly in terms of what we could have gotten with an episode focused more squarely on the games themselves and not on a personal dev story for Spike.

RyuRoots May 4 2014 05:56 AM

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I was honestly pretty disappointed, mostly for reasons that Saito states. The truth of the matter is that, as far as I'm concerned, Spike is not good at carrying episodes and never has been. This is made worse by the fact that Twilight and Dashie, who both have very solid stories you could explore (Twilight coping with being part of "the royalty" now in a big way and Dashie's many instances of prepping for this), were support for Spike and reduced to sidepony respectively.

The games themselves seemed really cool from what little outside the flying we got to see, and it's such a huge waste to spend all this on Spike. I also feel that the moral got botched by giving Spike this big heroic second chance. I dunno. The episode feels like it both trips over itself in what it wants to do on its own merits AND utterly wastes a season-long buildup.

It's not to say I hated it; I did enjoy it minute to minute, but I was at least expecting the episode called "Equestria Games" to maybe be about the Equestria Games a little bit more. I give it a C; it has a lot of good moments and it's not bad, but it was impossible for all the missed opportunity not to flood my mind once it was done.


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