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dswynne1 April 29 2014 04:08 AM

What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
I kind of have a soft-spot for them, and felt that they allowed for a futuristic look for the film. If there was one flaw, I felt that the overall design was not consistent. I couldn't tell which department belong to what uniform, and there were too many collar variations. But I did like the idea of slipping on a jacket over your uniform, one that was designed to be utilitarian, and not bulky (compared to the field jacket in TWOK).

I do wonder if the field jumpsuits in STiD is a throwback to some of the TMP uniforms, but without the 1970s look...

2takesfrakes April 29 2014 04:12 AM

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Seriously, I LOVE the TMP uniforms! I think they're terrific! But they do not do a very good job at hiding beer guts and sagging boobs on aging cast members ...

Vger23 April 29 2014 04:42 AM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
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2takesfrakes wrote: (Post 9524731)
Seriously, I LOVE the TMP uniforms! I think they're terrific! But they do not do a very good job at hiding beer guts and sagging boobs on aging cast members ...

First of all Frakes, major respect for the Chuck Yeagar avatar from "The Right Stuff!"

I like the TMP uniforms too. They're so unique that I'm fascinated by them. My Star Trek Online characters all have TMP uniforms just because nobody else would use them...haha!

They're certainly not my favorite, but it don't hate them like so many others do.

Grant April 29 2014 05:41 AM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
I love revisionism.

At the time it was clear the cast hated them, the fans hated them, the critics hated them and now 35 years later there is nostalgia for the incredibly bland boring uniforms that would only have ever appeared in the 1970s aesthetic.

they look like pajamas with built in footies.

Maurice April 29 2014 06:46 AM

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There are things I like about them, but I hate the untucked shirt look of the two piece uniforms, the belt buckles on the men are too big (and the buckle design is blah), and the color choices are bland. I like the short sleeve variant a lot, though.

CommishSleer April 29 2014 06:55 AM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
They leave nothing to the imagination.
The colours are dull.
The short sleeve ones look too informal IMO. Not enough like uniforms at all.
And unfortunately I have to agree with 2TakesFrakes, probably the worst uniform if you weren't totally fit or were older. Not that the other Star Trek uniforms were much better in that regard.

Perhaps they were the most realistic uniform for the military. If you were in one of the beige ones you could blend right in with the background. Unlike the TWOK uniforms.

Khan 2.0 April 29 2014 10:10 AM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
id say its the uniforms that mostly make TMP feel and look like its from another series of movies than that of 2-6

imagine if TMP had the WOK uniforms...or vice versa...

Relayer1 April 29 2014 10:22 AM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
I preferred them. I love the look and feel of TMP. Despite loving some of the other movies, I'd have preferred it if they'd have carried on in that vein.

MacLeod April 29 2014 10:37 AM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
I would say the best looking of the TMP uniforms was Admiral Kirk's two-colour one.

drt April 29 2014 11:01 AM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
I have the impression that what audiences didn't like about them in 1979 were the colors, not the design. If they had kept the established departmental colors, I think they would have been a lot better received (probably even more so with black collars and pants for the two piece).

They also look more like a natural design progression from the rather minimalist original series uniforms than the overly festooned maroon ones of ST2-6.

C.E. Evans April 29 2014 11:37 AM

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I actually think up until the First Contact uniforms, the TMP uniforms were the most realistic Starfleet uniforms (in the sense of a futuristic space navy from a society centuries from now).

Mytran April 29 2014 12:21 PM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
Colour-wise, they're a more natural progression from the CAGE era uniforms (as is the bridge colour palette).

Design-wise I can see the lineage from the TOS uniforms. It's the integrated footsies that stand out the worst, IMO.

2takesfrakes April 29 2014 02:28 PM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
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Vger23 wrote: (Post 9524782)
First of all Frakes, major respect for the Chuck Yeagar avatar from "The Right Stuff!"

Thank you, very much, sir! Chuck Yeager, the Man who broke the Sound Barrier, is still amongst us, as of this writing. And how he was depicted in The Right Stuff was just larger than life! He's from a bygone era, certainly, but his true grit, determination and heroism makes him a great source of inspiration to me. One Man can make a difference. Chuck Yeager is proof of that ... he's a Living Legend!

SchwEnt April 29 2014 03:17 PM

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^^^ wouldn't it be even better to have an avatar of the *real* Chuck Yeager?

Cyke101 April 29 2014 03:31 PM

Re: What was wrong with the TMP uniforms?
 
I just can't with the TMP uniforms. They're bland in almost every way. By trying to be futuristic and sleek, they're, imo, the uniform that's dated the worst. The color divisions almost blend into each other, which can't be a good thing, either. The future is boring..

I will say, though, that I really like the admiral's uniform. But keep it separated from the other duty uniforms to maintain a unique look. It would stand out more among other officers wearing brighter colors.


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