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Khan 2.0 April 23 2014 03:56 PM

Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
-set a good 5 years after STID (which would be the beginnings of the TMP movie era in the Prime timeline). Like the first film showed us the pre 5 years mission origin of the crew (at least the alternate universe version of it), this would show us post 5 year mission ‘Lost Years’ which is also untold onscreen and allowing it to be more a big budget updated version of the original movies (not so much the original series like ST09/STID). Anyway it’ll be 7 years since ST09 in 2016 (plus STID was supposed to be set right after that)

-mushroom space dock with the massive blue lit interior housing all the ships
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120316224125/memoryalpha/en/im ages/6/6b/Earth_Spacedock,_2293.jpg

-ripped shirts and Kirk-Fu:
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/133/2/0/an_introduction_to_kirk _fu_by_rabittooth-d5jnrdo.jpg

-TOS & movie music nods (Goldsmith & Horner rifts – not anything big – just a musical ‘cameos’ like Amok Time fight music in STID)

-lengthy phaser ‘beams’ not star wars ‘blasts’
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/...007-Phaser.jpg
http://trekannoyances.com/tos_enterp...asers_blue.jpg

-Enterprise refit more sleek like TOS movies (esp if set in the TMP era) - e.g. the Ent at the end being refitted into full on exact TMP Enterprise (cool image to end the movie on)
http://www.leestringer.com/Images/Mo...erprise_02.jpg

-getting more toward foreshadowing the TWOK style uniforms/field jackets/equipment/ship designs (again esp if set good few years later)

-more movie style to the sound FX/visual FX of the beaming/phasers etc (again if set years later)

-Kirks green wraparound tunic
http://www.startrekmemorabilia.com/p...l-RBPTN021.jpg

-Pine sporting the dark curly Admiral Kirk Shatfro:
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/William_Shatner_4.jp g

-more vicious Trek III style Klingons again (like VI had them as villains for 25th ann)

-TMP style transporter malfunctions (with gory aftermath)

-TWOK style nebulas (hiding/battling in)

-more federation starship vs. federation starship carnage

-more Bones

-maybe change the classic ‘STAR TREK’ font to the movie font for promo stuff? (i always liked the movie font best):
http://a.images.blip.tv/WMAhero-FilmTrekStarTrekTheMotionPicture364.jp g

-Twilight Zone/Outer Limits/early TOS style eeriness/horror

-unexplained wonder/unknown - questions and mcguffins that are not answered and are left to the imagination which is far more powerful than any explanation the film maker can give (I like the fact Khans backstory was vaguely described/left unexplained in STID - the brig scene was kind of similar to the Khan/Chekov scene on Ceti Alpha V in TWOK - ‘on earth..200 years ago…I was a prince with power of millions..’)

-more references to the prime timeline/alternate future for the 50th anniversary - maybe a 'Days of Futures Past/Yesterdays Ent' type story involving alternate realities, prime timeline links etc (maybe involving TNG and or Shat Kirk)

-the borg (maybe something to do with them if above.) FC will be 20 years old in 2016

-Nero (what happened to him and the remains of the Narada when they went through the black hole - did he end up back in the future? The past? The delta quadrant? - see borg above again. maybe Nero could be like the Ras Al Guld of the Trek trilogy? - haunting Kirk?)

-various Trek stuff cameoing/referenced/easter egging - e.g. Talosions, Doomsday machine, gorns, cloud killer, Guardian of Forever, corbomite, tholians, wild west, rand, No 1, Nurse Chapel (finally), Capt Terrel, Kruge, Decker, Ilia, Savvik, Sybok, Admiral Archer, Botany Bay/Khan(again), Reliant/Excelsior, Patrick Stewart and the next gen (see points above), Vger (somehow linked to the borg? see points above)

-some big name supporting roles? e.g.:
Bryan Cranston as Chang, Jason Moma as Kruge, Colin Firth as Gorkon, Taylor Kitch as Joachim, Chiwetel Ejiofor as Capt Terrel,

-some big name cameos??
Arnold Schwarzenegger - Klingon Emperor, Harrison Ford - Head of Starfleet (or some big shot Starfleet Admiral dishing out orders to Kirk at some point just like in TOS), Stephen Collins - Matt Decker, Scott Bakula - Captain Archer (flashback), Brent Spiner - Dr Soong,, Patrick Stewart – Picard (flashforward) or Picards ancestor, Michael Dorn - Worfs ancestor, Leonard Nimoy - Spock Prime, Richardo Montalban - Khan (CG flashback showing end of Eugenic Wars/BB/revival - or Space Seed briefing room photo)

-Shatner....id still like him there…if possible. maybe retro footage from some outtakes from previous Trek movies or little seen tv movies/TJ Hooker? or even Shatner as he is now - The lost ST09 Birthday scene? as Kirks grandpop? alternate reality future Kirk? ( fanpleasing end cameo as old Pine Kirk - not Prime Kirk - maybe with old Quinto Spock - something like Cloud Atlas end) or even aged up Pine Kirk Deadly Years style? (maybe the opening could be the end of The Deadly Years re-imagined with Shatner and Nimoy opening the movie fighting off the Romulans before they get de-aged back to Pine/Quinto)

-more redshirt deaths - im talking 'Obsession' levels

King Daniel Into Darkness April 23 2014 05:05 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
I'd like things to look as they do in ST and ID. I'm sick of Trek randomly changing things between movies, it'd be nice to keep visual continuity for this trilogy - that means fonts, uniforms, props, effects etc remaining unchanged and the ship looking as it did at the end of ID.

More of the character interactions which made ST and ID such a joy.

I want a mission about a year into the 5-year-mission. ID began with a mini-TOS style adventure, it'd be cool to see a whole movie like that.

Or, the Enterprise caught in the middle of an epic Borg invasion of Klingon space.

A TOS-style credits montage with photomanips of the new crew during various missions, both TOS classics reimagined and new ones (I'd have loved ID to end like this)

I want the status quo to change in a big way. No attempts to make it all a loose prequel to the TOS movies. "Whatever our lives might have been, if the time continuum was disrupted, our destinies have changed."

Someone do describe the Enterprise as being 725m from end to end.;)

Khan 2.0 April 23 2014 05:17 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
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I'd like things to look as they do in ST and ID. I'm sick of Trek randomly changing things between movies, it'd be nice to keep visual continuity for this trilogy - that means fonts, uniforms, props, effects etc remaining unchanged and the ship looking as it did at the end of ID.
i used to dig all the changes from movie to movie (oh wow the new phasers/communicators!...ooh look they changed the warp FX/phaserbeams/photontorps!... they got new jackets!...oh wow the bridge has changed!...ooh look kirks changed his hair again! etc)

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A TOS-style credits montage with photomanips of the new crew during various missions, both TOS classics reimagined and new ones (I'd have loved ID to end like this)
that's a good idea - images (painted or photo) of classic scenes from classic eps redone with the nu crew (like Spiderman 2 opening credits)....Arena, City, Doomsday, Amok, Spectre. etc

Smellmet April 23 2014 07:04 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
Bryan Cranston would make an awesome Chang! Having said that I'd like the basic look and structure of the first 2 movies to remain intact, such as the costumes and pre-credits sequence - Imagine a Star Wars movie without the same music and 3D text.

I've got no problem with a couple of nods to previous Trek music, but, again, I'd like it to stay the same by and large, with it's own incidental themes obviously.

I think the half arsed refit at the end of STID was a mistake, the ship should have been restored to it's original state or gone for a full TMP refit, JJ-Style IMO. The way the ship looks now is worse, those impulse engines spoil the look of the ship for me.

Like the OP I'd also like to see proper phasers, both hand and ship brought back, the weapons in STID were just generic Star Wars type blasters and looked shit, I'd love to TWOK style ship phasers, or even the ones the Kelvin fired at the Narada were good enough, The weapons the Vengeance fired at the Enterprise when they were near the moon - what the hell were they?

Finally whilst we're on the subject of ship combat - I want more of this please! Even though I love STID one of the biggest letdowns were the ship combat, it was too short, the camera angles were confusing and bar the Warp attack (which was again too short) the ship combat was seriously lacking in STID. If we are to believe the next movie is going to feature the Klingons then I want to see the Enterprise and maybe some other Fed ships slugging it out with some D-7 battlecruisers. Less fist fights and more space action!

I'm just eager to hear any news on the movie as it's coming up to a year since STID.

KennyB April 23 2014 10:32 PM

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Khan 2.0 wrote: (Post 9503926)
-Pine sporting the dark curly Admiral Kirk Shatfro:
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/William_Shatner_4.jp g

No.................Just no.:guffaw:

2takesfrakes April 23 2014 11:08 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
Maybe seeing Kirk and Bones take Spock to a Titty Bar where Jolene Blalock is the stripper ... that would be COOL!!!

Hartzilla2007 April 23 2014 11:19 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
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Khan 2.0 wrote: (Post 9503926)
-set a good 5 years after STID (which would be the beginnings of the TMP movie era in the Prime timeline). Like the first film showed us the pre 5 years mission origin of the crew (at least the alternate universe version of it), this would show us post 5 year mission ‘Lost Years’ which is also untold onscreen and allowing it to be more a big budget updated version of the original movies (not so much the original series like ST09/STID). Anyway it’ll be 7 years since ST09 in 2016 (plus STID was supposed to be set right after that)

-mushroom space dock with the massive blue lit interior housing all the ships
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120316224125/memoryalpha/en/im ages/6/6b/Earth_Spacedock,_2293.jpg

-TOS & movie music nods (Goldsmith & Horner rifts – not anything big – just a musical ‘cameos’ like Amok Time fight music in STID)

-Enterprise refit more sleek like TOS movies (esp if set in the TMP era) - e.g. the Ent at the end being refitted into full on exact TMP Enterprise (cool image to end the movie on)
http://www.leestringer.com/Images/Mo...erprise_02.jpg

-getting more toward foreshadowing the TWOK style uniforms/field jackets/equipment/ship designs (again esp if set good few years later)

-Pine sporting the dark curly Admiral Kirk Shatfro:
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/William_Shatner_4.jp g

That would be too early for that stuff as 5 years after STID is 2265 aka about the time TOS took place.

USS Triumphant April 23 2014 11:20 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
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2takesfrakes wrote: (Post 9505351)
Maybe seeing Kirk and Bones take Spock to a Titty Bar where Jolene Blalock is the stripper ... that would be COOL!!!

Now you've just gone and made the comment *I* was going to make about how it would be nice to see Gaila again - and how, exactly, it would be nice to see her :drool: - just seem cheap. :lol:

2takesfrakes April 23 2014 11:33 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
I'm not doing much writing, but when I'm on the shitter, the ideas just keep poppin'! :cool:

2takesfrakes April 23 2014 11:33 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
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USS Triumphant wrote: (Post 9505405)
... it would be nice to see Gaila again ...

It would, indeed! :lol: ((...snicker))

Khan 2.0 April 23 2014 11:38 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
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Hartzilla2007 wrote: (Post 9505402)
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Khan 2.0 wrote: (Post 9503926)
-set a good 5 years after STID (which would be the beginnings of the TMP movie era in the Prime timeline). Like the first film showed us the pre 5 years mission origin of the crew (at least the alternate universe version of it), this would show us post 5 year mission ‘Lost Years’ which is also untold onscreen and allowing it to be more a big budget updated version of the original movies (not so much the original series like ST09/STID). Anyway it’ll be 7 years since ST09 in 2016 (plus STID was supposed to be set right after that)

-mushroom space dock with the massive blue lit interior housing all the ships
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120316224125/memoryalpha/en/im ages/6/6b/Earth_Spacedock,_2293.jpg

-TOS & movie music nods (Goldsmith & Horner rifts – not anything big – just a musical ‘cameos’ like Amok Time fight music in STID)

-Enterprise refit more sleek like TOS movies (esp if set in the TMP era) - e.g. the Ent at the end being refitted into full on exact TMP Enterprise (cool image to end the movie on)
http://www.leestringer.com/Images/Mo...erprise_02.jpg

-getting more toward foreshadowing the TWOK style uniforms/field jackets/equipment/ship designs (again esp if set good few years later)

-Pine sporting the dark curly Admiral Kirk Shatfro:
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/William_Shatner_4.jp g

That would be too early for that stuff as 5 years after STID is 2265 aka about the time TOS took place.

hasn't everything been fast tracked though - some of that stuff could get done earlier (maybe not the shatfro)

RAMA April 24 2014 06:26 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
An exploratory mission that runs afoul of Klingon interests, who were already preparing for war.

Smellmet April 24 2014 08:04 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
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RAMA wrote: (Post 9508555)
An exploratory mission that runs afoul of Klingon interests, who were already preparing for war.

I think that would work quite nicely - and would satisfy the action and exploration camps, nice and simple, no gimmicks, just a straightforward, entertaining story like TUC.

Melakon April 24 2014 08:21 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
None of the above are random enough, since it all involves Star Trek. Random would be things like ponies, clown cars, and a special appearance by Paris Hilton.

Enterprise1701 April 24 2014 11:10 PM

Re: Random stuff like to see in ST3
 
A fusion of DS9/VOY/ENT with 2009 special effects. (i.e. no STID warp effect and no phaser bolts)
No random generic alien crewmembers of the Enterprise.
science officer 0718, navigation officer Darwin, and Gaila
Starbase 1/Earth Spacedock being referred to by both names.
McCoy told to shut up with over-the-top complaining
Chris Doohan's transporter officer character given a name
Keenser talk
Kirk give an incompetent admiral a badass lecture
Klingon names spelled with proper transliteration (i.e. Qo'noS not Kronos)
The Enterprise devastate planetside enemies at point-blank range
The Enterprise established to have a length of roughly 300 meters.
If this movie features Earth in an important role, then the President of the Federation


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