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MANT! March 8 2014 06:49 AM

Malaysian airliner feared lost..
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia...th-239-aboard/

http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraf...023820132.html

All 239 feared dead..

The airliner is a Boeing 777-200 an airliner with a very good reputation for safety and reliability.. ELT transmissions have been received by the Vietnamese air traffic authority and military search and rescue is on the way...

antichristhill March 8 2014 07:58 AM

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Oh Jesus. How awful!

Nociod March 8 2014 10:14 AM

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This is so sad :(

JRS March 8 2014 12:18 PM

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Terrible news indeed:borg:
There is a big search operation going on, including ships and planes from Malaysia, Vietnam, China and the Philippines. Something terrible must have gone wrong, the weather seemed to be fine at the time of the disappearance, so I doubt that is the cause for this.

EmoBorg March 8 2014 01:33 PM

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As someone who works in the aviation industry, I am shocked by this accident as Malaysian Airlines has a very good safety record which is even better than Air France. This accident is a shocker in the aviation industry.

I Am Groot March 8 2014 02:54 PM

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That's awful. :(

Ancient Mariner March 8 2014 03:08 PM

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Oh dear ... what are the chances of any survivors at this point?

antichristhill March 8 2014 07:21 PM

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^Just about zero, I should think.

Nociod March 8 2014 07:22 PM

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Apparently two of the passengers were traveling on stolen passports, so the Malaysian government doesn't want to rule out this being a terrorist act...
(http://www.latimes.com/world/worldno...#axzz2vO7FEZyS)

but it could as well be an accident. 19 months ago, the plane had an accident on the ground, damaging the wing (http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=147571)

Marc March 8 2014 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Nociod wrote: (Post 9335992)
Apparently two of the passengers were traveling on stolen passports, so the Malaysian government doesn't want to rule out this being a terrorist act...
(http://www.latimes.com/world/worldno...#axzz2vO7FEZyS)

but it could as well be an accident. 19 months ago, the plane had an accident on the ground, damaging the wing (http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=147571)

But even if the repaired wing had a problem it wouldn't have caused a loss of aircraft in such a manner (though it would have caused some difficulties to be sure).

What is most puzzling is the manner in which the aircraft disappeared. Not mayday call or anything. Even if the engines stopped turning there's batteries and ram air turbines to provide power for communications etc to get a call out.

So it's leading to speculation that the aircraft broke up at cruise altitude and other than acts of terrorism I don't think that's been an issue for many years.

J.T.B. March 8 2014 09:53 PM

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Quote:

Marc wrote: (Post 9336328)
What is most puzzling is the manner in which the aircraft disappeared. Not mayday call or anything. Even if the engines stopped turning there's batteries and ram air turbines to provide power for communications etc to get a call out.

So it's leading to speculation that the aircraft broke up at cruise altitude and other than acts of terrorism I don't think that's been an issue for many years.

It's still very early for speculation like that. Air France 447 in 2009 was similar to begin with, just "disappearing" over water. It turned out there were some automated messages sent, but that was not reported for several days.

publiusr March 8 2014 10:29 PM

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Wasn't there some plumes that remained aloft from that part of the world recently? Not all volcanoes are as well measured

Mount Sinabung in Sumatra seems suspect: "On 07 March 2014, an eruption resulted in an ash plume extending west and reaching a height of 4 km"
http://www.weather.gov.sg/wip/pp/volcanic.html

Marc March 8 2014 10:51 PM

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publiusr wrote: (Post 9336652)
Wasn't there some plumes that remained aloft from that part of the world recently? Not all volcanoes are as well measured

Mount Sinabung in Sumatra seems suspect: "On 07 March 2014, an eruption resulted in an ash plume extending west and reaching a height of 4 km"
http://www.weather.gov.sg/wip/pp/volcanic.html

Thoug if the aircraft flew through one of thsoe and it caused the engines to fail there would still be time to put out a mayday call.

There was an incident with a British Airways 747 back in 1980 or thereabouts when volcanic ash caused all four engines to shutdown but they were able to get them restarted.

Markas March 8 2014 11:05 PM

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They have now found oil slicks which *may* be the result of a crash. So sad.

Trek or Treat! March 8 2014 11:35 PM

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After a thorough search of my home, I can confidently report that the missing airliner is definitely not here.

I've done my part.


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