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Komack February 22 2014 11:26 PM

Behind the Scenes of DS9
 
As I watch more DS9 episodes for the first time, I'm getting more and more interested in hearing behind the scenes stories of the show's production, the different personalities of the actors, etc. Any one have any good stories?

Hober Mallow February 22 2014 11:30 PM

Re: Behind the Scenes of DS9
 
The DS9 Companion is about as in-depth as you can get.

Relayer1 February 22 2014 11:55 PM

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First hand from a member of the Voyager cast -

Voyager had a fairly upbeat atmosphere on set - cast 'hung out' off screen and enjoyed each others company. The cast member in question decided to visit the DS9 set on the neighbouring lot but found the staff and cast to be rather unwelcoming, keeping themselves to themselves and very little in the way of on set bonhomie. In fact he found them a thoroughly miserable bunch.

On the way back over to the Voyager lot, he met someone from the DS9 production team he knew looking agitated. When he asked what was up, he was told that someone on the DS9 crew had died in an accident on the way to work. When the Voyager cast member commented that it was no wonder the DS9 set was so miserable, he was told 'Oh, they don't know - I just was on the way to tell them !'.

Bad Thoughts February 23 2014 12:12 AM

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Hober Mallow wrote: (Post 9280129)
The DS9 Companion is about as in-depth as you can get.

Agreed, though many of it's insights have been culled by the Memory Alpha wiki and two podcasts, The Gamma Quadrant and the Orb. You can get a lot by checking those out.

Tosk February 23 2014 01:48 AM

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Relayer1 wrote: (Post 9280210)
First hand from a member of the Voyager cast

What's to be lost by naming them?

Relayer1 February 23 2014 06:35 PM

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Tosk wrote: (Post 9280651)
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Relayer1 wrote: (Post 9280210)
First hand from a member of the Voyager cast

What's to be lost by naming them?

I don't know - these guys see each other on the convention circuit regularly, and as it was just a private chat between the two of us rather than 'in public', I'd rather not cause any awkwardness, so I'll err on the side of caution.

If anyone else has heard the same repeated in front of an audience, I'll confirm.

Bad Thoughts February 23 2014 07:08 PM

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Relayer1 wrote: (Post 9283003)

I don't know - these guys see each other on the convention circuit regularly, and as it was just a private chat between the two of us rather than 'in public', I'd rather not cause any awkwardness, so I'll err on the side of caution.

If anyone else has heard the same repeated in front of an audience, I'll confirm.

If true, my money is on McNeill. He would be the one to be both familiar with the studio and have the impetus to see what goes on behind the scenes.

{ Emilia } February 23 2014 07:43 PM

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Relayer1 wrote: (Post 9280210)
First hand from a member of the Voyager cast -

Voyager had a fairly upbeat atmosphere on set - cast 'hung out' off screen and enjoyed each others company. The cast member in question decided to visit the DS9 set on the neighbouring lot but found the staff and cast to be rather unwelcoming, keeping themselves to themselves and very little in the way of on set bonhomie. In fact he found them a thoroughly miserable bunch

Garrett Wang told a very different story in a long podcast I listened to a while ago. He said the Voyager set wasn't that great. Specially Mulgrew was really a pain when Jeri Ryan showed up.

My point being: Take these stories with a grain of salt.

MacLeod February 23 2014 08:01 PM

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There is nothing wrong with either way, there just different that's all.

bbailey861 February 23 2014 11:27 PM

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I also recommend listening to some of Chase Masterson's old podcasts from thefandom.com. She interviewed several members of the DS9 cast as well as others - and quite frankly, did a very good job at it. I was sorry to see it go. You can access them here:

http://www.chaseclub.com/thefandom.html

LOKAI of CHERON February 24 2014 12:30 AM

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bbailey861 wrote: (Post 9284095)
I also recommend listening to some of Chase Masterson's old podcasts from thefandom.com. She interviewed several members of the DS9 cast as well as others - and quite frankly, did a very good job at it. I was sorry to see it go. You can access them here:

http://www.chaseclub.com/thefandom.html

Thanks very much for the link, bbailey861. I've never come across those interviews before, but the Denise Crosby one was excellent. I definitely be listening to most of the others. :techman:

bbailey861 February 24 2014 01:29 AM

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LOKAI of CHERON wrote: (Post 9284338)
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bbailey861 wrote: (Post 9284095)
I also recommend listening to some of Chase Masterson's old podcasts from thefandom.com. She interviewed several members of the DS9 cast as well as others - and quite frankly, did a very good job at it. I was sorry to see it go. You can access them here:

http://www.chaseclub.com/thefandom.html

Thanks very much for the link, bbailey861. I've never come across those interviews before, but the Denise Crosby one was excellent. I definitely be listening to most of the others. :techman:

I listened to them when they were originally broadcast and haven't listened since. I remember them fondly - but not the details. It's time I go back.

Trek Survivor February 25 2014 02:52 PM

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DS9 cast members such as Michael Dorn, Armin Shimmerman and Nana Visitor have all commented in the past that the DS9 set WAS a much more subdued, 'serious' place. They took the work seriously, and tended not to have fun and hijinx akin to the TNG cast. They were also not all "best mates" like the TNG cast (Armin talks specifically about Avery Brooks being quite distant from most of the others on a personal level) but were always cordial to each other.

Now, that is not to say there was something "wrong" with the DS9 set - it's just a different way of working. As many of them came from theatre backgrounds, it's easy to understand this. In fact, you could argue they had the right approach! (Marina Sirtis often gleefully talks about an early TNG director who refused to come back on the show because the cast were so silly; now, she says it as a good thing, but from the other perspective, maybe the director felt they were unprofessional and ruining whatever he was trying to achieve).

As for not being best mates, well, I work with lots of people, and I wouldn't hang out with most of them - I don't have anything against them, but there's no law that says people you work with must also be close friends. That's not to say some strong relationships didn't develop amongst the ensemble - Brooks/Lofton, Siddig/Robinson, Siddig/Visitor (obiously).

Dave Rossi, who worked behind the scenes, has also gone on record (in the UK Star Trek Monthly magazine back in 2006) stating that the behind the scenes atmosphere on the show circa season 2-3 was very low. They felt overshadowed by TNG and VOY and many of the cast were fed up.

I rather suspect most of the behind the scenes of TV series are a mixture of good, bad and ugly!!

dub February 25 2014 05:56 PM

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Some of them did hang out together after work. This is from an interview with Alexander Siddig:

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Jordan Hoffman: Who from the old days that you don’t get to see do you like to hang out with the most at conventions?

Alexander Siddig: You know I love hanging out with Nicky deBoer.

Jordan Hoffman: I see.

Alexander Siddig: She is just hilarious; great, great girl. And um if I see Colm Meaney we’ll have a drink and bitch at each other. That’s all we do. I realize looking back at my history with him, I went out with him twice a week every week for seven years – drinking. Boy, he can pack em away.

Jordan Hoffman: I would imagine.

Alexander Siddig: And all we did was fight. And I guess that’s what they did on the show too. But we fought in real life all the time. He would set me up, he’d take me to Irish bars where they hated English people. I would think they were being racist about the fact that I’m black and they weren’t. The just hated the English people, they would just hear my accent and they’d – and he just laughed his head off.

Jordan Hoffman: Did you ever actually play darts, though, is the real question.

Alexander Siddig: No. No. That would be very weird.

Jordan Hoffman: There needs to be a separation between art and life.

Alexander Siddig: Yes, because that was the only separation, the dart game.
:beer:

mlk March 9 2014 07:11 PM

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I ve read from an interview with Alexander Siddig that he was a pain in the ass to most people the first couple of seasons of DS9. Even going so far as not showing up at the season photo of season 3 I think because he didn't get his way in an episode.


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