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WesleysDisciple February 15 2014 01:20 AM

How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
Theyve all gone undercover on a number of occasionas without substantial disugises or cosmetic surgery.... would think after Their heroism saving earth from the Borg, their faces would be on the news, and on Holodramas, point is... dont see them taking the risk of going in without being cosmeticly altered.

Yuckleberry Finn February 15 2014 02:11 AM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
No such canon evidence exists so no

Mojochi February 15 2014 04:44 AM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
I'm pretty sure the face of Locutus gives a great deal of Federation citizens horrid nightmares

Ro_Laren February 15 2014 06:12 AM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
Maybe Picard is recognizable, because of the Locutus thing, but do you really think the rest of the crew would be? I mean, I know that the Enterprise has gone on some "notable" missions, but the Federation is pretty big. Does the average Federation citizen pay attention to the "military" a.k.a. Starfleet? I don't think that the average American would have any clue who serves on American aircraft carriers or any other Naval vessel.

Of course, it also depends on what the mission is and where they are going. If they need to on a mission to a hostile environment that would recognize (because of Intelligence Reports) that the away team is from Starfleet, I am sure they would take the necessary steps to disguise themselves.

HIjol February 15 2014 12:05 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
<permission to come aboard>

Data, certainly, I would think...holo dramas...love it!

2takesfrakes February 15 2014 02:14 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
That hot Russian, Anna Chapman, was sleeping with every politician in the U.S. of A. for government secrets, which she - surprisingly - got in quite a bit of detail. They all knew her and yet - through careless Pillow Talk - betrayed our country, many times over! But because she was the spy, she was the scape goat for the fiasco and deported and unlike Snowden, all of those horny politicians who made it with her got re-elected, with no problems. Point is, politics are all one big game, really and you don't get to command the flagship of the Federation, without knowing how to play The Game. Notice how James Bond never gets "recognized," despite being the best known agent in the Intelligence Community. Then, again ... his ability to transfer from one actor to another over the years has contributed, somewhat ... surely!

bigboojeg February 15 2014 03:45 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
A lot of their missions are probably classified. Waring factions could exploit a new alien weapon (like the Tamarian's weapon that trumped the Enterprise D) and use it against the Federation. I think some missions, like when they save earth, are shared probably to get people to join Starfleet.

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Ro_Laren wrote: (Post 9248917)
Maybe Picard is recognizable, because of the Locutus thing, but do you really think the rest of the crew would be? I mean, I know that the Enterprise has gone on some "notable" missions, but the Federation is pretty big. Does the average Federation citizen pay attention to the "military" a.k.a. Starfleet? I don't think that the average American would have any clue who serves on American aircraft carriers or any other Naval vessel...

Don't forget Admiral Prescott (I think) pointed out Riker's good work against the Borg. I think that was general knowledge and not something he read before arriving.

Green Shirt February 15 2014 04:32 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
In our times, how many military people would be recognized by the general public other than Gen. Schwartzkopf, Ollie North, or perhaps Jessica Lynch?

Armored Saint February 15 2014 04:37 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
Despite the Enterprise-D (then the E) was the prestigious flagship, her crew members didn't ever seem to be having a reputation of exceptional heroes. Picard was a well-respected Captain as Kirk during TOS era.

Look at Captain Jellico, he treated the Enterprise officers like typical Starfleet officers.

In Unfication, the bar singer didn't immediately recognize Riker as the Enterprise XO. She saw the uniform, then realized by talking with him he was from the ship that killed her former husband. When they wear civilian clothes on a bar or Risa, they are incognito.

bigboojeg February 15 2014 04:42 PM

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Green Shirt wrote: (Post 9250108)
In our times, how many military people would be recognized by the general public other than Gen. Schwartzkopf, Ollie North, or perhaps Jessica Lynch?

There are too many factors that would make the 24th century uncomparable to today's military. For one, the Federation is more known for its diplomatic agenda.

F. King Daniel February 15 2014 04:49 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
We know Enterprise NX-01's crew became famous for saving the Earth (ENT: "Home") and Kirk's became legendary, but I guess there's no room in TNG's evolved future for fame.

Just kidding, I'm sure if they ever did a sequel series Picard and co would be hailed as legends just like Kirk.

Green Shirt February 15 2014 04:51 PM

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bbjeg wrote: (Post 9250144)
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Green Shirt wrote: (Post 9250108)
In our times, how many military people would be recognized by the general public other than Gen. Schwartzkopf, Ollie North, or perhaps Jessica Lynch?

There are too many factors that would make the 24th century uncomparable to today's military. For one, the Federation is more known for its diplomatic agenda.

True. Its like arguing the greatest sports figures of different eras. So much has changed over the decades (equipment, rules, PEDs, training and the like) that comparison is difficult.

Armored Saint February 15 2014 06:39 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
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bbjeg wrote: (Post 9250144)
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Green Shirt wrote: (Post 9250108)
In our times, how many military people would be recognized by the general public other than Gen. Schwartzkopf, Ollie North, or perhaps Jessica Lynch?

There are too many factors that would make the 24th century uncomparable to today's military. For one, the Federation is more known for its diplomatic agenda.

You're not wrong, but how many diplomats or civil servants are you able to recognize?

JirinPanthosa February 15 2014 07:40 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
Data must be a pretty big celebrity in the Federation, he's got to have a lot of recognition.

Besides Picard and Data, there are probably more people who know of them than know what they look like. Worf must be famous among Klingons and somewhat well known on Earth. People are naturally going to give Picard credit for most of the ship's accomplishments. And while their adventures may be exciting when watching them, I can bet the actual mission reports are dry and wordy, so they aren't heavily reported on.

Before the Dominion War:

Federation News Service Page 1: "80 degrees and sunny in the beautiful clean air of Los Angeles. Denobulan pop singer Rhavix tours Andor, divorces Vulcan wife?"

Federation News Service Page 80: "Enterprise D escapes ancient booby trap, left by ancient extinct dynasty".

bigboojeg February 15 2014 09:23 PM

Re: How recognizable is the enterprise crew?
 
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Armored Saint wrote: (Post 9250498)
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bbjeg wrote: (Post 9250144)
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Green Shirt wrote: (Post 9250108)
In our times, how many military people would be recognized by the general public other than Gen. Schwartzkopf, Ollie North, or perhaps Jessica Lynch?

There are too many factors that would make the 24th century uncomparable to today's military. For one, the Federation is more known for its diplomatic agenda.

You're not wrong, but how many diplomats or civil servants are you able to recognize?

I played a neat game trying to name a bunch of historical figures and surprisingly knew quite a bit, and history was always my worst subject.


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