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TheWelshPirate February 14 2014 11:29 PM

If they had any bells...
 
They should've ended ST'09 pretty much the same way as the HISHE episode. They can't escape the black hole, so they turn around and go through it. Then you could have the next movie (or next several movies) about them wandering about the multiverse trying to get back to their reality. Or resetting to a TOS reality. Sort of a Star Trek: Sliders sort of thing.

I didn't like ST'09, but an ending like that would've completely redeemed the movie for me. Not to mention it would've given them a story where they're actually on a trek through the stars. It certainly would've been better than the same old "must defeat vengeance-obsessed villain and/or corrupt Admiral" story we've seen 7,000 times.

Thoughts?

Tulin February 14 2014 11:38 PM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
What's HISHE?

TheWelshPirate February 14 2014 11:56 PM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
HISHE = How It Should Have Ended

They're hilarious little animations on the internet that parody movies. Check out this one to see what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbJ-y...ybyO-&index=14

And STID for good measure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N15J...HybyO-&index=2

F. King Daniel February 15 2014 12:00 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
Quote:

TheWelshPirate wrote: (Post 9247705)
They should've ended ST'09 pretty much the same way as the HISHE episode. They can't escape the black hole, so they turn around and go through it. Then you could have the next movie (or next several movies) about them wandering about the multiverse trying to get back to their reality. Or resetting to a TOS reality. Sort of a Star Trek: Sliders sort of thing.

I didn't like ST'09, but an ending like that would've completely redeemed the movie for me. Not to mention it would've given them a story where they're actually on a trek through the stars. It certainly would've been better than the same old "must defeat vengeance-obsessed villain and/or corrupt Admiral" story we've seen 7,000 times.

Thoughts?

We already saw Star Trek: Voyager.

I think you're kinda missing the point of rebooting TOS, if you want it to become something completely different.

TheWelshPirate February 15 2014 12:13 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
We've also already seen Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan. About four or five times now.

And even if you wanted to generalize enough to say that idea is like Voyager, there is also the fact that a two hour movie would still have more screen time dedicated to that plot than Voyager managed in seven seasons.

Heaven forbid a Star Trek movie involve some form of exploration.

Set Harth February 15 2014 12:41 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
Yeah, I don't want the next movie to end at Earth again.

I'm so sick of Earth.

CorporalClegg February 15 2014 02:29 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
You can always leave.

TheWelshPirate February 15 2014 03:58 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
We can? Wow, that Orion program is coming along better than I expected...

Cookies and Cake February 15 2014 04:03 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
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King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: (Post 9247822)
We already saw Star Trek: Voyager.

Pretty much what I was going to say.

Devon February 15 2014 04:03 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
Quote:

TheWelshPirate wrote: (Post 9247705)
They should've ended ST'09 pretty much the same way as the HISHE episode. They can't escape the black hole, so they turn around and go through it. Then you could have the next movie (or next several movies) about them wandering about the multiverse trying to get back to their reality. Or resetting to a TOS reality. Sort of a Star Trek: Sliders sort of thing.

I didn't like ST'09, but an ending like that would've completely redeemed the movie for me. Not to mention it would've given them a story where they're actually on a trek through the stars. It certainly would've been better than the same old "must defeat vengeance-obsessed villain and/or corrupt Admiral" story we've seen 7,000 times.

Thoughts?

No.

The Wormhole February 15 2014 04:22 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
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TheWelshPirate wrote: (Post 9247861)
Heaven forbid a Star Trek movie involve some form of exploration.

Actually, the opening scene of STID is the first and only time we've see the crew of any Enterprise doing any exploring in a Star Trek movie. Seriously, the only exploring done in the TOS movies was by the Reliant in TWOK, the Grissom in TSFS and the Excelsior in TUC. No exploration at all in the TNG ones.

Cookies and Cake February 15 2014 04:38 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
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The Wormhole wrote: (Post 9248560)
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TheWelshPirate wrote: (Post 9247861)
Heaven forbid a Star Trek movie involve some form of exploration.

Actually, the opening scene of STID is the first and only time we've see the crew of any Enterprise doing any exploring in a Star Trek movie. Seriously, the only exploring done in the TOS movies was by the Reliant in TWOK, the Grissom in TSFS and the Excelsior in TUC. No exploration at all in the TNG ones.

Hmmm. What about Sha Ka Ree in STV? What about the interior of V'Ger in TMP?

CorporalClegg February 15 2014 05:33 AM

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TMP was like 90% exploration.

Whiskey Tango Fox?

Dukhat February 15 2014 08:09 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
Quote:

TheWelshPirate wrote: (Post 9247705)
They should've ended ST'09 pretty much the same way as the HISHE episode. They can't escape the black hole, so they turn around and go through it. Then you could have the next movie (or next several movies) about them wandering about the multiverse trying to get back to their reality. Or resetting to a TOS reality. Sort of a Star Trek: Sliders sort of thing.

The problem with this idea is that it was not the intent of the reboot. The reboot was intended to simply have the same TOS characters we all know and love in a new universe that wasn't bogged down by 40+ years of canon, so that they could tell original stories. If all they wanted to do was have a crew wandering through different universes each movie, they could have used anyone for that.

Also, I'm not quite sure how not ending the films the way you personally would have wanted them to end is any kind of proof that the movie producers have no "balls."

Bry_Sinclair February 15 2014 09:32 AM

Re: If they had any balls...
 
NuTrek isn't a reboot though, its an alternate timeline where they can tell the same stories only now with flashy new visual effects and younger actors. If it was a reboot then there would be no Prime Spock, also a reboot should do more to shake up the characters (like NuBSG did).

It'd be an interesting idea, but with mega-hyper-warp they'd be home five minutes into NuTrek 2.

An explorer story would be nice to see, I'd prefer that as opposed to a war film with the Blingons.


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