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Hawkeye_90 December 26 2013 09:40 AM

Movie anticipation for undiscovered country
 
Was this a highly anticipated movie, or was it kind of a small notice only for Trek fans?

Botany Bay December 26 2013 12:22 PM

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From my perspective, as a fan, the anticipation was off the scale. We knew it would be the final TOS adventure, there were persistent leaks that the crew would all go down in a blaze of glory (cleverly fanned by the ambiguous comments made by old Spock in the TNG episode "Unification"), and it was the 25th anniversary.

I have no idea how excited non-fans were getting over it - judging by its box office, it seems to have been a big improvement over STV:TFF, but nowhere in the league of the first four films.

There was a ton of media coverage for TUC : it was the 25th anniversary, the movie was cleverly teased in a Next Gen episode (Unification), there was loads of new merchandise coming out all throught 1991 to cash in on the anniversary, and there were rumours flying around suggesting some of the crew might get killed off.

Given all this media excitement, you'd have to guess Paramount were disappointed with TUC's performance, otherwise the TOS crew would have been on the bigscreen circa 1993. So my guess is for non-fans it didn't really cut through.

King Daniel Into Darkness December 26 2013 12:41 PM

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I remember lots of hype for it and Trek's 25th anniversary. Lots of television specials and the like, pictures in magazines etc.

Khan 2.0 December 26 2013 03:16 PM

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i remember before VI came out reading the updates of info from various sources like the letters editorial in the back of the Trek DC comics at the time (which I bought monthly for a couple of years), The Official FanClub magazine (which I bought occasionally) and various magazines like Starlog and Starburst (which I very rarely bought, just flicked through). Obviously there was no net back then so checking out the magazines in comic stores on a Saturday was they way to do it.
I remember being fascinated that it was to be a klingon based story (the first proper klingon film since III), that it would involve the klingon homeworld, an ice prison planet, Captain Sulu, the excelsior, a new BOP and battle cruiser (not seen since TMP!), new space dock scenes (not just reusing FX from previous films), romulans, possible TNG connections, a TNG tie in episode, and of course Meyer directing again...there were also rumours a major character would die (Kirk?). It all sounded really exciting - far more so than the previous one. Almost like the ultimate Trek movie was being made - encompassing elements of all the previous films (unlike V which was pretty stand alone) and even TNG, whilst also being a sort of 25th anniversary capper so expect some strong visual ties to TOS (which I felt the previous films didn’t do so much). I don’t think the regular film goers/media were that bothered about VI - due to V being ridiculed, TNG becoming a real force (due to its great 3rd season), and the fact it was the sixth film (so in the eyes of non fans it was almost getting like Police Academy in terms of cracking them out) But for me the anticipation was HUGE (despite the disappointment of the last film) and usually when its at that level a film can only disappoint - but it didn’t. in fact it surpassed my expectations, and for a while (maybe a couple of years) I considered it the best Trek film (yes even better than Khan!). Actually I think it was pretty much the same in Trekdom e.g. Check out the Trek VI Cinefantastique issue and in there Ed Gross reviews all the films in a sidebar that goes throughout the magazine and he gives VI a higher rating than II and said it was now considered the best Trek film.
It was also good to see the regular Movie goers/media give it great reviews, buzz etc. almost like a ‘sleeper’ they weren’t expecting anything of due to the reasons mentioned, yet it turned out to be a great film so it became one to see for even non fans

CommishSleer December 26 2013 03:16 PM

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My memory was that TMP, TWOK and TSFS were much more highly publicised.

I may be wrong though.

The Old Mixer December 26 2013 03:20 PM

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I remember a particularly attention-grabbing early teaser:


Khan 2.0 December 26 2013 03:28 PM

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Given all this media excitement, you'd have to guess Paramount were disappointed with TUC's performance, otherwise the TOS crew would have been on the bigscreen circa 1993. So my guess is for non-fans it didn't really cut through.
yes maybe if VI had been a IV sized hit there would have been a VII with the original crew for 93 as was rumoured there could be at the time (maybe Ashes of Eden directed by Meyer or Nimoy or even Shatner as itd be his story - in fact the AOE comic was very much like a comic adaptation of a Trek VII) maybe TNG could have done another couple of years on tv instead of DS9/VOY, then theyd have done Generations for the 30th anniversary in 96 (more Yesterdays Ent than what was done), or alternatively still finished in 94 but waited 2 years before hitting the big screen.

Greg Cox December 26 2013 04:16 PM

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I mostly remember the SNL joke: "Paramount has just announced that it will start production on Star Trek VI:The Apology."

King Daniel Into Darkness December 26 2013 04:51 PM

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There was also considerable relief that VI was a continuation of the original crew and not the rumoured Starfleet Academy prequel.

Grant December 26 2013 05:17 PM

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The Old Building & Loan wrote: (Post 9053470)
I remember a particularly attention-grabbing early teaser:


That teaser got my heart pumping--brilliant to finally embrace TOS in the marketing for the movie.

"This is not just the 6th movie In a series---it's the culmination of 25 years of a beloved franchise."---was what it was saying.

BillJ December 26 2013 07:37 PM

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King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: (Post 9053680)
There was also considerable relief that VI was a continuation of the original crew and not the rumoured Starfleet Academy prequel.

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It most closely resembles TOP GUN in structure: Brash young loose cannon (Kirk) goes to the academy, meets a girl, gets into trouble, whips up a few shenanigans, is pressed into unexpected action, and proves his value to the system via a trial by fire.
Sounds like Star Trek 2009! :lol:

TheSubCommander December 26 2013 07:43 PM

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Elf Spock wrote: (Post 9053455)
My memory was that TMP, TWOK and TSFS were much more highly publicised.

I may be wrong though.

Agreed. That's how I remember it, too. I would add IV in there, as well. I think it was mainly due to the poor execution of V.

CorporalClegg December 26 2013 07:47 PM

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The Old Building & Loan wrote: (Post 9053470)
I remember a particularly attention-grabbing early teaser:


Is that Plummer doing the voice over?

The Old Mixer December 26 2013 08:48 PM

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Not sure, but it sounds like him.

The teaser still hits me where it counts after all these years. And back when I first saw it, whatever movie I was seeing, it was quite the unexpected surprise.

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BillJ wrote: (Post 9054049)
Sounds like Star Trek 2009! :lol:

That's been my impression of ST09 since I first heard about the premise...that TPTB were finally getting their long-kicked-around Academy movie, after a fashion.

Hober Mallow December 26 2013 09:13 PM

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With the 25th anniversary of Trek and the film openly being promoted as the final adventure for the original crew, there was a huge amount of hype for TUC.


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