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Flux Capacitor December 8 2013 09:28 AM

"Are you coming or going?"
 
One thing that I always dread about the holiday season is the whole parking situation at stores. And the situation is that there isn't much of it. So you'll be walking back to your car, haven't even stowed your bags yet and some vulture is already sitting in the aisle, turn signal blinking, just waiting for you to vacate the spot. It'd be one with if I were in the car, engine running, and just a second or two away from pulling out...but I've had people actually follow me to my car in hopes of getting my spot. It seems rude to me because now the person you're waiting for feels rushed, while the vulture blocks the aisle while they wait.

What prompted this rant was today as I was leaving a store. I was on the bike, so I had to grab my gloves from my bags and put on my helmet and other gear before mounting up. As I'm opening my saddlebag, a car pulls up and the driver asks the old, "You coming or going?" I told him that I was going but that it would be a while. He said that was fine and to take my time. Meanwhile, he just sits there and starts to clog up the flow of traffic also trying to get into the parking lot. I finally said, internally, "Screw this" and walked my bike out of the spot, still without having put on the majority of my gear, just so this guy could take his precious spot and clear the road. He thanked me and said he didn't expect me to do that...and I really wanted to tell him that I didn't do it for him, but I bet my tongue and just said, "No worries."

Is it just me, or is that A. a rude thing to do to the person still occupying the spot and is not even close to being ready to go and B. rude to the other people trying to find a spot? I for one would circle the lot a few times before I would sit and wait while someone loads all of their purchases into their car, gets in, puts on their seat belt/starts the car, etc. It just seems awfully rude and self important to me.

Dimesdan December 8 2013 09:34 AM

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No and Yes.

This seems like a strange thing to have a rant about. People drive to shops, sometimes there are more people needing to park than actual spaces so ergo, this situation will arise in a period when customers supposedly need more stuff.

Flux Capacitor December 8 2013 09:36 AM

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It's not so much that people wait for spots, it's when they begin to wait so prematurely that the person they're attempting to replace is still a good 4-5 minutes away from becoming mobile and subsequently block traffic behind them as well.

Dimesdan December 8 2013 09:41 AM

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And? Sorry I still don't see your issue. Are American car parks so ill designed that they're aren't wide enough to allow two cars to pass?

There really is no issue here.

If you feel so strongly about this, why even physically go shopping? Most supermarkets here do a home delivery service after ordering online and you can buy most other things online aswell.

Flux Capacitor December 8 2013 09:46 AM

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In this particular lot, the cars queuing up behind the guy eventually ended up having to swing around him in the oncoming side of the aisle, but it wasn't happening in a very orderly or consistent manner.

I was physically shopping because my wife had seen an item the previous day that she liked but didn't buy since we were shopping for others, so I wanted to grab it while she was at work. Otherwise, yeah, I like to do my Christmas shopping primarily online. We don't really have too much of an online grocery delivery service besides maybe one or two supermarkets and is not too widely used.

Roger Wilco December 8 2013 09:49 AM

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Is it common to take up an entire parking space with a motorcycle?

Flux Capacitor December 8 2013 09:52 AM

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No, I was actually way off to one side to allow any other bikes to use the spot, as I usually do.

Was I supposed to have the guy try and share the space with me? :wtf: A bike, sure, but a car? Those spot aren't that big.

Gov Karnstein December 8 2013 09:57 AM

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If the lot is crowded, or at a peak time, it's unsurprising someone might wait for a spot that's going to become available. Especially so, if it is somewhat close to the entrance someone wants to go to.

Dimesdan December 8 2013 09:58 AM

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I'm really struggling to see your point of view on this. It strikes me that you did what you needed to do and screw anyone else.

teacock December 8 2013 10:09 AM

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You should all take the bus.

Flux Capacitor December 8 2013 10:10 AM

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Gov Radner wrote: (Post 8988928)
If the lot is crowded, or at a peak time, it's unsurprising someone might wait for a spot that's going to become available. Especially so, if it is somewhat close to the entrance someone wants to go to.

This spot wasn't particularly close to the entrance at all. The issue is not so much the waiting, but the choice to wait for someone who isn't even close to leaving yet.

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Dimesdan wrote: (Post 8988934)
I'm really struggling to see your point of view on this. It strikes me that you did what you needed to do and screw anyone else.

Screw anyone else? I walked my bike out of the spot and then put on my gear so the guy could get out of the aisle and take the spot. I could have sat there, taking my sweet time putting on my gear but I didn't. I stopped what I was doing, hung my helmet on my bars, walked the bike back and clear of the spot, and then continued to gear up once I was in a safe spot. Where was I screwing anyone else? :confused:

Gov Karnstein December 8 2013 10:11 AM

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teacake wrote: (Post 8988958)
You should all take the bus.

Unfortunately, an impractical solution in much, if not most of the US.

Dimesdan December 8 2013 10:16 AM

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Flux Capacitor wrote: (Post 8988961)
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Dimesdan wrote: (Post 8988934)
I'm really struggling to see your point of view on this. It strikes me that you did what you needed to do and screw anyone else.

Screw anyone else? I walked my bike out of the spot and then put on my gear so the guy could get out of the aisle and take the spot. I could have sat there, taking my sweet time putting on my gear but I didn't. I stopped what I was doing, hung my helmet on my bars, walked the bike back and clear of the spot, and then continued to gear up once I was in a safe spot. Where was I screwing anyone else? :confused:

It's more your mentality and the fact you've ranted on here.

Shops get busy around this time and sometimes, there are more people needing spaces than actual spaces. So people will wait for a parking space to open up, it's part of the whole shopping experience around the festive period because people just really need new stuff around this time of year.

Flux Capacitor December 8 2013 10:21 AM

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I ranted because I find it rude that I now have to rush to get ready to go, or in the past have had to rush to stow my purchases all because someone has laid claim to my spot before I've even gotten in the damn car. Would you do that for a table at a restaurant? Perhaps I shouldn't ask, because I once had someone do that exact thing to us once, in the very same manner as this guy waited for the parking spot.

I once had it happen when I was going out to my car simply to place my jacket inside, as it had gotten too warm to wear and too cumbersome to carry while shopping. The guy asked if I was coming or going, as well, and I replied with, "Staying, actually. Sorry." and walked away. He gave me a dirty look and sped off. :wtf:

Rainbow Dash December 8 2013 10:23 AM

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Dimesdan wrote: (Post 8988892)
And? Sorry I still don't see your issue. Are American car parks so ill designed that they're aren't wide enough to allow two cars to pass?

There really is no issue here.

If you feel so strongly about this, why even physically go shopping? Most supermarkets here do a home delivery service after ordering online and you can buy most other things online aswell.

Many parking lots in the U.S. aren't designed very well at all, and the smaller the market or shop, the more poorly designed the parking spaces.

I do understand that it gets annoying when you're still putting away your groceries or bags in your trunk, and there's a guy sitting 3 feet away in his car, with his signal on, just waiting to get into your space, and he's so close you either can't maneuver to get out, or that car has sat there so long (through no fault of your own), that it's letting the whole section become congested, and now no one can get out until that car moves.

The polite thing to do, if you're looking for a space in which to park, is usually to wait a few seconds, and if it doesn't look like the car is leaving anytime soon, to go around and come back. That gives the car a chance to leave, and keeps traffic flowing.


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