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Candlelight November 22 2013 12:16 AM

An Adventure in Space and Time - Grade and Discuss
 
Not seeing it until Saturday unfortunately. Can't wait.

Starkers November 22 2013 12:31 AM

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Absolutely magnificent. Just really lovely.

ITL November 22 2013 12:31 AM

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Wonderful stuff. Well worth a watch.

Emh November 22 2013 12:42 AM

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I can't see it until Sunday at the earliest when I'm back in Brussels. Ironically, I'm on holiday in London but I was at a concert tonight.

Wereghost November 22 2013 01:29 AM

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Giving it four out of five (which is my "excellent", basically).

Some lovely moments, such as the one where Lambert and Hussein hug each other after the ratings are released. Reece Shearsmith's Doctor Two was spot on, also (though how accurate that was to Troughton himself, I'm not sure).

The bit at the end took me out of it somewhat. I wonder if we'll be seeing that scene in a different context before the end of the year.

SeerSGB November 22 2013 01:57 AM

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Wereghost wrote: (Post 8921260)
Giving it four out of five (which is my "excellent", basically).

Some lovely moments, such as the one where Lambert and Hussein hug each other after the ratings are released. Reece Shearsmith's Doctor Two was spot on, also (though how accurate that was to Troughton himself, I'm not sure).

The bit at the end took me out of it somewhat. I wonder if we'll be seeing that scene in a different context before the end of the year.

I hope they don't change the context. At it stands, it's a sweet, almost tender moment. I like it just for that allow. Don't need any extra context.

Venardhi November 22 2013 03:58 AM

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That moment at the end didn't quite work for me. A transition over to Smith's own goodbye to the modern console to close it out would have worked a lot better if their intent was for a 'passing of the torch'/'and it continues to this day' moment. As it is, it kinda just looks like Matt Smith traveled back in time and walked on set.

Really my only complaint about the whole thing. I never would have thought I could enjoy it as much as I did. Well written, well acted, fantastic production values all around and damn near tear-jerking. If Gatiss could bring that level of pathos to the actual show, I say give him the reigns tomorrow.

Cutter John November 22 2013 04:05 AM

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That was quite lovely. I smiled and giggled in a few places, and yes, even shed a few tears toward the end.

:(

I'm sure over the next few days we'll read about how this scene didn't happen, or that bit wasn't quite right. But for now, I'm quite pleased with it as a wonderful tribute to the show we all love.

Excellent.

Tom November 22 2013 04:43 AM

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Just got done watching it! That was amazing!!

Saga November 22 2013 05:29 AM

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i thought it was really great. i loved some of the little things like the Cyberman smoking and Hartnell looking at a real police box.

Smoked Salmon November 22 2013 07:32 AM

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Venardhi wrote: (Post 8921923)
That moment at the end didn't quite work for me. A transition over to Smith's own goodbye to the modern console to close it out would have worked a lot better if their intent was for a 'passing of the torch'/'and it continues to this day' moment. As it is, it kinda just looks like Matt Smith traveled back in time and walked on set.

That wasn't really the point of the scene. Hartnell is rumoured to have held the belief when the show started that it would be a big success and go on for many years. This scene was a symbolic representation that his beliefs came true, that despite having to leave the role those beliefs have been vindicated and his legacy set the course for the future. So not really passing the torch in the classic sense of the phrase since it wasn't really meant to be the 11th Doctor showing up.

Venardhi November 22 2013 08:12 AM

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It doesn't really watch that way though. It was just kind of awkward. My thought process was: "Oh hey, there is Matt Smith. Wait, does he actually see him there? I wonder if we'll transition to a dramatized scene of the modern production. Oh, guess not. Huh, that was odd."

They had a lot of options for that scene. A transition through each Doctor on his own TARDIS as Hartnell looks on before finally finishing on Smith where they share that moment and it comes back to him on his own set would have been a lot more effective.

The Mirrorball Man November 22 2013 08:36 AM

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Venardhi wrote: (Post 8922550)
They had a lot of options for that scene. A transition through each Doctor on his own TARDIS as Hartnell looks on before finally finishing on Smith where they share that moment and it comes back to him on his own set would have been a lot more effective.

Drama rarely becomes more effective when you make it more complicated.

VDCNI November 22 2013 08:45 AM

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Yeah I've seen other people say they should have shown all the Doctor's but they would have had to use clips for that which would have taken away from the beautiful simplicity of the scene - it was a fleeting magical moment in a great drama, it didn't need anymore than that to get over the point they were making.

Deckerd November 22 2013 08:56 AM

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Venardhi wrote: (Post 8922550)

They had a lot of options for that scene. A transition through each Doctor on his own TARDIS as Hartnell looks on before finally finishing on Smith where they share that moment and it comes back to him on his own set would have been a lot more effective.

That sounds dreadful. Why complicate an elegant and touching nod to the 50-year span of the show?


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