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MikeS November 16 2013 07:45 AM

One last surprise?
 
There is just one regeneration left that we haven't seen. Hurt - Ecclestone. I wouldn't be surprised if Ecclestone appears in this 50th anniversary special as one last surprise for the fans.

BTW. Now that we know, what is everyone's opinion of where the Hurt Doctor fits into the Doctors timeline? I was of the opinion that he'd be a pre-Hartnell Doctor, one before he "made the promise". Now that he's been shown as fitting between McGann and Ecclestone it means he made a promise, broke it, changed his mind and made it again.

Pavonis November 16 2013 07:50 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
What's "opinion" got to do with anything? Hurt is the true ninth incarnation of the Time Lord we know as the Doctor. He's just not the Ninth Doctor.

I'd like to see the regeneration from Hurt to Eccleston myself, but I wouldn't count on it. Eccleston doesn't look back. Maybe if they do something like the McGann to Hurt regeneration, though, where someone else was playing the young Hurt, and they used archive photos to make Eccleston "appear". Of course, that may involve the rights to his appearance, and I don't know anything about that....

No matter what, we'll never really see all the regenerations. I don't expect to ever see Troughton to Pertwee.

MikeS November 16 2013 07:59 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
Quote:

Pavonis wrote: (Post 8897002)
What's "opinion" got to do with anything?

Erm, probably everything ever written on TrekBBS?

sttngfan1701d November 16 2013 08:17 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
Eccleston won't be appearing. BBC issued a press release saying he wasn't appearing, didn't they? You don't do that and then have the guy show up.

He ain't showing up.

Pavonis November 16 2013 08:18 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
What I mean is, what's "opinion" got to do with where Hurt's Doctor fits into the Doctor's timeline? It's very clear that he's the direct successor to the Eighth Doctor. As for taking up the title of the Doctor again, well, with the war over, what was he going to do - stay a Warrior? No. He regenerated, and tried to be the Doctor again. It explains a lot about the Ninth Doctor's actions and attitudes.

MikeS November 16 2013 08:27 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
I'm sorry, perhaps I have been a little unclear by my misuse of language. I should have asked "what are peoples ideas and views about McGann's regeneration into the Hurt Doctor? Personally I think it was a great surpirse, a brilliant piece of writing and was uber-excited to see McGann again. I am also thinking that maybe the elixir has reset the Doctors regenerations to zero. I'd like to hear other peoples thoughts too."

Sparky November 16 2013 08:27 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
Who is Ecclestone? For crying out loud, at least get the name right.

Now aside from that, you really thought it would be a pre-Hartnell doctor? Really? Just the clothes alone pointed to a "doctor" between 8 and 9. It was obvious from the moment Hurt appeared on screen. You even touch on it in your original post "He's the one who broke the promise" Not, He's the one before he made the promise.

Now, there may be a filmed regeneration, a CGI regeneration, an implied regeneration, a "reflection" regeneration like in the Night of the Doctor. Or no regeneration at all. Given what the Moff has pulled off so far, I'm not discounting anything.

MikeS November 16 2013 08:34 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
Friendly forum this.

Jesus wept, get out the shot gun. I mistakenly added an extra "E" at the end of an actors name that hasn't appeared on the show since 2005 (yes, I'm probably wrong with that date too but I just can't be arsed to look it up).

Mods. Lock/Delete/do whatever to this thread. I'll stay clear from now on.

Lonemagpie November 16 2013 10:10 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
Moffat said he wants to "have the box set, all the regenerations", and there is another Minisode called Last Day which will be on the DVD...

Dramatically and structurally they have to show Hurt's fate unless they're going to have him return in the future - and showing his fate means they either have to have Eccles back to show that regeneration, or fake it with stock footage as they faked Hurt in The Night Of The Doctor. So they have to do that either in the special or the minisode.

Unless of course Moffat just wants something to leave to wind up the fans. Which he might.

Tosk November 16 2013 11:43 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
If they are allowed to use old footage of Eccles, it'd be a snap to do a regen. Just have Hurt regen in the control room, and use an outtake of when Eccles became Tennant as the 'end' point. (There would have to be more than one take done of that moment.) Done. :)

YellowSubmarine November 16 2013 02:17 PM

Re: One last surprise?
 
Eccleston appearing after Hurt's regeneration? Sure,

Saul November 16 2013 02:45 PM

Re: One last surprise?
 
I'm sure they can use stock footage. But will there be a regeneration or is this War Doctor a character we'll see more of in future. That's the question.

Pavonis November 16 2013 06:29 PM

Re: One last surprise?
 
Even if there's a regeneration from Hurt to Eccleston, there's the possibility of revisiting the War Doctor. It's not as though his life were brief! He may have had the longest life of any of the incarnations.

Saul November 16 2013 07:21 PM

Re: One last surprise?
 
True dat, but if we see him again I imagine it's the one that is close to the time we see in 'The Day of the Doctor' since it will be our first introduction to him and in a way the 10th and 11th Doctors. If they decide to use the Hurt Doctor again then not having a regeneration/defeat at the hands of 10 and 11 might play better if he encounters 11 or 12 in future.

Kelso November 17 2013 07:07 AM

Re: One last surprise?
 
Quote:

Pavonis wrote: (Post 8898271)
Even if there's a regeneration from Hurt to Eccleston, there's the possibility of revisiting the War Doctor. It's not as though his life were brief! He may have had the longest life of any of the incarnations.

Yeah, really! Given that Eleven went two hundred years without visibly increasing in age, the War Doctor looks like he's been around for about 8,000 years! :D


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