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Mr. Laser Beam October 31 2013 04:31 AM

MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
Allow me. :)

My first question, follows directly from my last post:

Does anyone know who is replacing Tim McCarver as Joe Buck's color commentator on Fox?

bigdaddy October 31 2013 04:35 AM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
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George Steinbrenner wrote: (Post 8832019)
Allow me. :)

My first question, follows directly from my last post:

Does anyone know who is replacing Tim McCarver as Joe Buck's color commentator on Fox?

Who cares?! The Sox won and the old crank is done! :lol:

Mr. Laser Beam October 31 2013 04:36 AM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
^ I do care, actually. People actually have to watch those Fox broadcasts!

Strangely enough, I'm hoping for Bobby V. As shitty as he was last year as Sox manager, he's not half bad as a broadcaster.

bigdaddy October 31 2013 04:38 AM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
Another great thing I just remembered the asshole baseball commissioner is leaving too. Next year will be a good year for baseball.

Mr. Laser Beam October 31 2013 04:39 AM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
^ Actually Selig has one more year left. 2014 is his last.

bigdaddy October 31 2013 04:50 AM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
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George Steinbrenner wrote: (Post 8832061)
^ Actually Selig has one more year left. 2014 is his last.


Fuck.

You are killing my buzz!

Ortiz gets a new car and they are fixing up a park, nice.

Bobby V beign an announcer tonight would have been awesome!

"So you went from worst to first, how does that feel? How does that happen?" - Bobby V to any player. :lol:

SmoothieX October 31 2013 05:09 AM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
My offseason will consist of listening to surgery/injury updates on what feels like half the Mets pitching staff.

And I'm sure they'll sign a bag of used balls and a turkey sandwich as their big FA pickups.

R. Star October 31 2013 07:11 AM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
Yay Cubs.... do we get another Dale Nobody or someone legit? Pretty much the only big question since it seems all too likely we're gonna be in rebuild mode for yet another year...

Ar-Pharazon October 31 2013 04:53 PM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
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GoRe Star wrote: (Post 8832370)
Yay Cubs.... do we get another Dale Nobody or someone legit? Pretty much the only big question since it seems all too likely we're gonna be in rebuild mode for yet another year...

That's the thing. I was kinda rooting for Girardi, just 'cause he's a likable guy and seems like a good manager, but can he work with a building/rebuilding team and have success.

It's easy to do a decent job w/the Yankees and that payroll.

Timby October 31 2013 05:39 PM

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GoRe Star wrote: (Post 8832370)
Yay Cubs.... do we get another Dale Nobody or someone legit? Pretty much the only big question since it seems all too likely we're gonna be in rebuild mode for yet another year...

I don't know why anyone expected the Cubs to be contending within two years -- Jim Hendry left the organization a completely scorched mess. It takes time to get things back in order. Anyone who expected the Cubs to be "not shitty" until 2015 had their heads in the clouds.

And, really, Sveum wasn't a nobody. He was a finalist for the Boston managerial position in 2011 until Bobby Valentine came out of nowhere, and he's so highly regarded in baseball that the Royals snagged him as a coach the day after he was fired.

The person filling out the lineup card didn't matter at all for the last two years, and it certainly won't matter this coming year. The Cubs are a bad team, and it takes time to stop being bad. The Tampa Bay Rays didn't come out of nowhere, for example: This is Andrew Friedman's eighth year as the GM, and it's taken careful planning over the past eight years to build a solid organization.

Scout101 October 31 2013 06:37 PM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
That, and the #1 pick for 9 or 10 years, and then time to cultivate those players in the minors. Rays' GM is a genius and all, but having the #1 pick in every draft for a decade certainly helps restock the pantry...

Being a BAD team helps, as far as being able to bounce back. The worst thing you can do is be mediocre. Middling draft pick that won't pan out, expensive retread FA pickups, get one decent player at a time, but lose them to FA because you can't compete with just them alone. You really need to SUCK for a little while, restock, and then make some smart pickups.

As much as the Marlins piss me off, there's at least some logic to their plan where they suck out loud for a while, collect enough to make a run, and then burn it all down again for the pieces to start over.

Kirby October 31 2013 06:37 PM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
Looking forward to this offseason for the Rockies. We'll trade Troy Tuliwitzki, Carlos Gonzales, and/or Michael Cuddyer for some rookies that will never pan out, and then sign some washed up pitcher who they claim will transform our rotation. All the while claiming they want to win a World Series. F-you Rockies management.

SmoothieX October 31 2013 07:53 PM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
Quote:

Being a BAD team helps, as far as being able to bounce back. The worst thing you can do is be mediocre. Middling draft pick that won't pan out, expensive retread FA pickups, get one decent player at a time, but lose them to FA because you can't compete with just them alone. You really need to SUCK for a little while, restock, and then make some smart pickups.
I don't think you can make that same argument for baseball as you can for basketball or a franchise QB in football. Baseball has layers upon layers of minors, and it takes years for even top picks to make it to the bigs, assuming they don't flame out first. The MLB draft is a much bigger crapshoot.

Timby October 31 2013 08:09 PM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
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SmoothieX wrote: (Post 8833867)
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Being a BAD team helps, as far as being able to bounce back. The worst thing you can do is be mediocre. Middling draft pick that won't pan out, expensive retread FA pickups, get one decent player at a time, but lose them to FA because you can't compete with just them alone. You really need to SUCK for a little while, restock, and then make some smart pickups.
I don't think you can make that same argument for baseball as you can for basketball or a franchise QB in football. Baseball has layers upon layers of minors, and it takes years for even top picks to make it to the bigs, assuming they don't flame out first. The MLB draft is a much bigger crapshoot.

Right. Let's take the 2008 draft, for example, in which the Rays drafted first overall, taking Tim Beckham. Beckham has been popped twice for violation of the MiLB substance abuse policy, and he's been decent, not great, in the minors, which is why he only finally made it to the majors last month, after rosters expanded. He's only 23 and has room to grow, of course, but after five season in the minors, you generally know what you've got with a guy, and between his lack of pop and suspect fielding (plus his off-the-field issues), Beckham is projecting to be a journeyman kind of infielder at best.

Use of Time October 31 2013 08:52 PM

Re: MLB Offseason 2013-2014
 
I don't think the high value prospects are going to spend that much time in the minors compared to the days of old. The Harper's and Strasburg's of the world will play enough minor league baseball to learn the team system and get plugged in quickly as long as there is room. Triple A is no longer the proving ground for the high end draft picks. Triple A is pretty much a holding pen for veteren players trying to make one last run and those back end prospects that will most likely scrap away for the remainder of their careers hoping to join the parent team as a fill in for an injured player or as a late season roster addition. A good season in Double A can pretty much get you that spring training invitation and eventually a roster spot.


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