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Allyn Gibson October 23 2013 02:44 PM

Matt Smith would have stayed...
 
...had Moffat agreed to his plan for a "two Doctors" series with him and David Tennant.

Moffat: "Matt told me that he'd worked out this plan that they'd both continue in Doctor Who: do five individual episodes each and three together -- would that be ok? It was a nice plan. I think if I'd said yes they'd have gone for it."

Damn it, Moffat, why did you say no? That would have been the greatest thing ever! (And yes, I'm saying this as someone who's been critical of Moffat's work.) It might not have made sense narratively, and it would have really stretched the format, but it would have been fun!

Moffat, the implacable enemy of fun.

Mr Awe October 23 2013 02:46 PM

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Yeah, I took that whole story as more of a joke. I don't expect that either Smith or Tennant would've actually stayed, they kind of have other plans!

Not to mention, what to do with Capaldi?!

Mr Awe

Allyn Gibson October 23 2013 03:03 PM

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Mr Awe wrote: (Post 8804155)
Yeah, I took that whole story as more of a joke. I don't expect that either Smith or Tennant would've actually stayed, they kind of have other plans!

Not to mention, what to do with Capaldi?!

At the time, which would have been April, Capaldi wasn't cast. Moffat was probably already looking at Capaldi, as it was around that time that the Ben Daniels rumors, which we now know had some validity, ramped up. But if Capaldi weren't cast, and from what Daniels has said we know that didn't happen until summer, Moffat could have changed his tentative series 8 plans to accommodate Matt Smith's plan.

Matt's structure for the season makes a lot of sense -- five solo episodes for each Doctor, plus three team-up episodes. So I'd imagine a team-up episode to kick off the season -- maybe a "Key to Time" like threat that the eleventh Doctor knows he can't do on his own -- so he calls in his tenth self and they split up, each doing what they can. And there could be cameos throughout the series as the Doctors check in on each other (because the audience would want to see the two Doctors together). Finally, there's the two-part finale where the two Doctors get together and lay down the smack. :)

A plan like this would have limited the filming so each could have pursued other projects; we're talking five filming blocks each for Tennant and Smith instead of the usual seven.

Christopher October 23 2013 03:40 PM

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I'd prefer it if they did something like that to bring back Paul McGann. I want more Eighth Doctor in live action, darn it!

Captaindemotion October 23 2013 03:59 PM

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I can't see Tennant having agreed to come back.

I'd love to see more McGann too. But I imagine that Smith's comments (which were probably tongue in cheek) arose because he enjoyed working with Tennant on the DOTD special.

Emperor-Tiberius October 23 2013 04:06 PM

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The most positive thing about this, of course, is that there might be a possibility of a multi-Doctor story with both Tennant and Smith again in the future... possibly with Capaldi for fun's sake?

Captaindemotion October 23 2013 04:13 PM

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Emperor-Tiberius wrote: (Post 8804401)
The most positive thing about this, of course, is that there might be a possibility of a multi-Doctor story with both Tennant and Smith again in the future... possibly with Capaldi for fun's sake?

That could be interesting. Moffatt has acknowledged in interviews that 10 and 11 are quite similar and get along quite well (as oppose to eg 2 and 3, who squabbled when they met). If, as is rumoured, Capaldi will be darker and grumpier than his immediate predecessors, it would be fun to see how he reacts to their cheerier dynamic.

The Mirrorball Man October 23 2013 04:17 PM

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Allyn Gibson wrote: (Post 8804143)
It might not have made sense narratively, and it would have really stretched the format, but it would have been fun!

I'm willing to bet that the format is about to be stretched as much as it was in 1970 when the third Doctor was introduced, so that wouldn't necessarily be a problem.

That being said, if this was said at all, it was said with tongue panted firmly in cheek. No one ever really considered it seriously.

Relayer1 October 23 2013 04:22 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 8804317)
I'd prefer it if they did something like that to bring back Paul McGann. I want more Eighth Doctor in live action, darn it!

Seconded !

McGann's one of my favourite Doctors. With my favourite control room...

NightJim October 23 2013 04:25 PM

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Thirded. Maybe because he's my first Doctor, maybe because I feel like he got the short straw only getting that TV movie. I really want to see him brought back for something.

Tom October 23 2013 04:36 PM

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It would be better if 10 did not like 11 that much, it would give more reason to him for not wanting to regenerate in TEOT.

Samurai8472 October 23 2013 04:40 PM

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Captaindemotion wrote: (Post 8804422)
If, as is rumoured, Capaldi will be darker and grumpier than his immediate predecessors, it would be fun to see how he reacts to their cheerier dynamic.

*10 and 11 joke around telepathically*

10- HA!

11- I know!

12- Look at you two. The skin(skinny) and the chin

10 and 11- Oi

The Haunting October 23 2013 05:44 PM

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I might be alone, but I think this would have been a terrible idea. If Tennant wanted to remain as the Doctor he had the chance, he chose to leave, same with Matt. I love Smith to bits in the role, but I'd rather have a man firmly committed to the role than two men wanting to have their cake and eat it.

Emperor-Tiberius October 23 2013 05:50 PM

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Samurai8472 wrote: (Post 8804482)
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Captaindemotion wrote: (Post 8804422)
If, as is rumoured, Capaldi will be darker and grumpier than his immediate predecessors, it would be fun to see how he reacts to their cheerier dynamic.

*10 and 11 joke around telepathically*

10- HA!

11- I know!

12- Look at you two. The skin(skinny) and the chin

10 and 11- Oi

12: I'm SO glad I'm not them anymore!

Mr Awe October 23 2013 06:07 PM

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Judge Death wrote: (Post 8804650)
I might be alone, but I think this would have been a terrible idea. If Tennant wanted to remain as the Doctor he had the chance, he chose to leave, same with Matt. I love Smith to bits in the role, but I'd rather have a man firmly committed to the role than two men wanting to have their cake and eat it.

I think it would be fun for a season. However, I don't suspect this is anything they'd actually do unless the ratings were in sharp decline. Then they might try something like this to bring back a "golden age."

JNT was thinking along these lines and having a degeneration back to Troughton!

Mr Awe


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