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oddsigve October 14 2013 12:09 AM

Coincidence?
 
Jacqueline Cochran, On May 18, 1943 Cochran set a new 100 km. Speed record at 1,050.15 km/hr. During her time flying in California, she exceeded 1270 km/hr and became the first woman to break the sound barrier.

Zefram Cochrane

Is there any back story, or is it just a coincidence?

LMFAOschwarz October 14 2013 12:18 AM

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My initial guess was coincidence...but then I thought of something similar: I was reading once about earlier years of Hollywood, and ran across an intriguing bit about how Paramount once had some serial films they'd shot. The series I remember specifically were the Mazie (sp.), Annabelle and Trudy series. Those names dingle any bells? :eek:

T'Girl October 14 2013 12:24 AM

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During TNG, there was mention of a planet named "Archer." When TPTB were creatling the ENT series, did they take that planet into consideration went they named their lead character "Archer?"


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SiddFinch1 October 14 2013 12:25 AM

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LMFAOschwarz wrote: (Post 8766529)
My initial guess was coincidence...but then I thought of something similar: I was reading once about earlier years of Hollywood, and ran across an intriguing bit about how Paramount once had some serial films they'd shot. The series I remember specifically were the Mazie (sp.), Annabelle and Trudy series. Those names dingle any bells? :eek:


Then of course you had the Stella series:lol:

LMFAOschwarz October 14 2013 12:28 AM

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SiddFinch1 wrote: (Post 8766562)
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LMFAOschwarz wrote: (Post 8766529)
My initial guess was coincidence...but then I thought of something similar: I was reading once about earlier years of Hollywood, and ran across an intriguing bit about how Paramount once had some serial films they'd shot. The series I remember specifically were the Mazie (sp.), Annabelle and Trudy series. Those names dingle any bells? :eek:


Then of course you had the Stella series:lol:

Forgot about that one!! :lol:

Melakon October 14 2013 01:11 AM

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Roddenberry and Matt Jefferies were both pilots during WWII, so anything's possible. Gene L. Coon, who wrote the episode, was a Marine. The name could have brainstormed between them.

The Wormhole October 14 2013 02:02 AM

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Unspeakable wrote: (Post 8766556)
During TNG, there was mention of a planet named "Archer." When TPTB were creatling the ENT series, did they take that planet into consideration went they named their lead character "Archer?"

Captain Archer's computer file in IAMD does claim that planet is named after him.

Yeah, I know, that doesn't answer your question.

Bry_Sinclair October 14 2013 06:59 AM

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The Wormhole wrote: (Post 8766901)
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Unspeakable wrote: (Post 8766556)
During TNG, there was mention of a planet named "Archer." When TPTB were creatling the ENT series, did they take that planet into consideration went they named their lead character "Archer?"

Captain Archer's computer file in IAMD does claim that planet is named after him.

Yeah, I know, that doesn't answer your question.

Archer is such a glory hog that he probably changed the Fedwiki article himself claiming that it was named for him.

It could've been named for a cartographer who first charted the system, or the survey team leader who first studied the planet, or maybe an extinct indigenous people known as the Ahr'sher which changed over time to simply become 'Archer'.

scotpens October 14 2013 07:06 AM

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oddsigve wrote: (Post 8766478)
Jacqueline Cochran, On May 18, 1943 Cochran set a new 100 km. Speed record at 1,050.15 km/hr. During her time flying in California, she exceeded 1270 km/hr and became the first woman to break the sound barrier.

I assume it's only a typo, but the correct year is 1953.

(Chuck Yeager was the first pilot to break the sound barrier in 1947.)

Asbo Zaprudder October 14 2013 10:09 AM

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Talk about a life well lived. Jackie Cochran crammed several life-times worth into one. And who are young women offered as a role model nowadays -- Miley Cyrus? Give us a break. :thumbdown:

CaptPapa October 14 2013 02:39 PM

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oddsigve wrote: (Post 8766478)
Jacqueline Cochran, On May 18, 1943 Cochran set a new 100 km. Speed record at 1,050.15 km/hr. During her time flying in California, she exceeded 1270 km/hr and became the first woman to break the sound barrier.

Zefram Cochrane

Is there any back story, or is it just a coincidence?

A coincidence probably; but do I sense the good Mr. Cox warming up a connection for one of his fine TOS novels? ;)

oddsigve October 15 2013 02:39 AM

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Hollywood Werewolf wrote: (Post 8768086)
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oddsigve wrote: (Post 8766478)
Jacqueline Cochran, On May 18, 1943 Cochran set a new 100 km. Speed record at 1,050.15 km/hr. During her time flying in California, she exceeded 1270 km/hr and became the first woman to break the sound barrier.

I assume it's only a typo, but the correct year is 1953.

(Chuck Yeager was the first pilot to break the sound barrier in 1947.)

Ahh, yes. Probably. I just copy/pasted the info on the site.

Nerys Myk October 15 2013 04:46 AM

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Asbo Zaprudder wrote: (Post 8768359)
Talk about a life well lived. Jackie Cochran crammed several life-times worth into one. And who are young women offered as a role model nowadays -- Miley Cyrus? Give us a break. :thumbdown:

A bit like saying in 1953 the only role model for young women was Marilyn Monroe. Give me a break.

R. Star October 15 2013 04:54 AM

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^
I didn't see the word "only" anywhere in Asbo's statement. Give yourself a break?

Nerys Myk October 15 2013 05:02 AM

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GoRe Star wrote: (Post 8772190)
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I didn't see the word "only" anywhere in Asbo's statement. Give yourself a break?

No its not. But it doesn't have to be, the intent of his post is pretty clear.


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