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The Four Doctor October 10 2013 12:17 PM

Question about TNG: Pen Pals
 
When Picard gets the ship's doctor to erase Sarjenka's memories, is it ever explained how they can erase specific memories or will there be "collateral damage"?

1001001 October 10 2013 01:34 PM

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Moving to TNG

Finn October 10 2013 09:40 PM

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The Four Doctor wrote: (Post 8750959)
When Picard gets the ship's doctor to erase Sarjenka's memories, is it ever explained how they can erase specific memories or will there be "collateral damage"?


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jimbotron October 10 2013 09:52 PM

Re: Question about TNG: Pen Pals
 
That was Pulaski, not Crusher.

Crusher did later try it in Who Watches the Watchers, but failed.

R. Star October 10 2013 09:53 PM

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Yeah... that incompetent redhead. She clearly didn't take memory washing 101 at Starfleet Medical.

Melakon October 10 2013 10:22 PM

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We can pretty much assume that memory wipes are fairly common in the 24th century, since the same thing was done to Voyager's EMH at one point. Sort of their version of electroshock therapy.

Of course the best answer to the question would be something like "What memory wipe?"

R. Star October 10 2013 11:36 PM

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Melakon wrote: (Post 8753041)
We can pretty much assume that memory wipes are fairly common in the 24th century, since the same thing was done to Voyager's EMH at one point. Sort of their version of electroshock therapy.

Of course the best answer to the question would be something like "What memory wipe?"

Well the Doctor being a computer program can be explained away... sorta, if you don't believe he's sentient. Another disturbing thing in that episode is that Ensign who the EMH let die. Just imagine her funeral... "Though you may be gone Ensign so and so, you will never be dead so long as you remain in our memory.... the funeral is over, Tuvok... purge all computer records of her existence."

Trekker4747 October 10 2013 11:40 PM

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Erasing short-term memory is "fairly" "easy", hell a good knock to your head will do that NOW. It's the biological equivalent of erasing and Etch-a-Sketch or clearing out your RAM by rebooting a computer. The more complicated part is to erase long-term memory which is like deleting something off of a DVD or... okay there's no equivalent for the Etch-a-Sketch.

Even the "stored" memories of her experiences talking to Data (on biological level) would be "easy" to find since they'd be the most recently created neurons in the part of the brain that stores memories. With a wave of the hand to accept that they've mapped the entire human brain and can scan it at the quantum level it's not too much a stretch to accept they can erase short term and newly created long-term memories.

Mojochi October 10 2013 11:58 PM

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The memory wipe is a proud Star Trek tradition. It's as renowned as time travel or warp core breaches

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Makarov October 11 2013 12:01 AM

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If memory wiping is commonplace why did Picard ask the aliens in Clues to use their advanced technology to do it?

R. Star October 11 2013 12:02 AM

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Probably because he knew this xenophobic species that wants no evidence of their existence anywhere wouldn't trust outsider to do it.

Mojochi October 11 2013 12:04 AM

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Plus, it was a hell of a lot easier than wiping over 1000 people's memories in sickbay

Makarov October 11 2013 12:10 AM

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GoRe Star wrote: (Post 8753545)
Probably because he knew this xenophobic species that wants no evidence of their existence anywhere wouldn't trust outsider to do it.

On the other hand Picard is cool with said species tampering with the entire crew's brains :lol:

Mojochi October 11 2013 12:16 AM

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they were going to execute them otherwise. I vote good call. lol

The Four Doctor October 11 2013 12:31 AM

Re: Question about TNG: Pen Pals
 
I wonder why they had the Sarjenka character as a little girl? Maybe they worried that a little boy wouldn't tug the heartstrings as much?


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