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Foxhot October 8 2013 10:32 PM

Classic Trek Wrongful Death Lawsuits
 
The following premise could apply to just about any TREK series or movie, with the possible exception of the animated series. If you were a relative of a recently-deceased Enterprise crewman, and you wanted to sue the pants off Kirk (or Starfleet as a whole), which of the 60-odd fatalities of TOS would give your ambulance chasing lawyers the best case? In short, pick an individual victim from your preferred episode, and specific reasons why.

(For example, THE APPLE's Mallory's mom might sue Kirk for 70 billion credits on the grounds that Kirk never warned Mallory there were exploding rocks on the planet. Even Samuel T. Cogley would agree it's a clear case of negligence.)

What say you??

SchwEnt October 8 2013 10:43 PM

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The redshirts who got beamed down without a planet being there. Dismissable due to alien mind control influence.

Melakon October 8 2013 11:30 PM

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Journey to Babel. Tellarite Ambassador Gav is murdered by an Orion spy. Naturally, Gav's family might have something to say about that, not to mention the Tellarite government due to lack of proper security with high profile passengers aboard.

In this case, the suit wouldn't be against Kirk necessarily, but against the Federation or Starfleet itself, plus a messy diplomatic situation.

Lieut. Arex October 9 2013 12:17 AM

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no doubt the Andorians received a strongly worded letter

Melakon October 9 2013 01:09 AM

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^ Of two words, ending in "you".

A beaker full of death October 9 2013 02:11 AM

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Melakon wrote: (Post 8745034)
Journey to Babel. Tellarite Ambassador Gav is murdered by an Orion spy. Naturally, Gav's family might have something to say about that, not to mention the Tellarite government due to lack of proper security with high profile passengers aboard.

In this case, the suit wouldn't be against Kirk necessarily, but against the Federation or Starfleet itself, plus a messy diplomatic situation.

At this point, what difference does it make if it was because of a Starfleet plot or was it because of a Vulcan out for a walk one night decided he’d go kill a Tellarite?

Foxhot October 9 2013 10:33 PM

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A beaker full of death wrote: (Post 8745544)
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Melakon wrote: (Post 8745034)
Journey to Babel. Tellarite Ambassador Gav is murdered by an Orion spy. Naturally, Gav's family might have something to say about that, not to mention the Tellarite government due to lack of proper security with high profile passengers aboard.

In this case, the suit wouldn't be against Kirk necessarily, but against the Federation or Starfleet itself, plus a messy diplomatic situation.

At this point, what difference does it make if it was because of a Starfleet plot or was it because of a Vulcan out for a walk one night decided he’d go kill a Tellarite?

I never thought there were ''nights'' on the Enterprise. Off-duty hours, certainly. But no dimmed lights. That might explain McCoy's grouchiness.

Also, if one diplomat kills another on ship, or elsewhere, does Starfleet consider diplomatic immunity? Besides in BY ANY OTHER NAME anyhow? Not only was Rojan apparently never charged, he probably wrote a best-selling book about his experiences as well.:borg:

EnsignHarper October 10 2013 12:45 AM

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foxhot wrote: (Post 8748580)
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A beaker full of death wrote: (Post 8745544)
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Melakon wrote: (Post 8745034)
Journey to Babel. Tellarite Ambassador Gav is murdered by an Orion spy. Naturally, Gav's family might have something to say about that, not to mention the Tellarite government due to lack of proper security with high profile passengers aboard.

In this case, the suit wouldn't be against Kirk necessarily, but against the Federation or Starfleet itself, plus a messy diplomatic situation.

At this point, what difference does it make if it was because of a Starfleet plot or was it because of a Vulcan out for a walk one night decided hed go kill a Tellarite?

Hey, Worf got away with it - and he was an active member of Starfleet who killed the Klingon Chancellor!

I never thought there were ''nights'' on the Enterprise. Off-duty hours, certainly. But no dimmed lights. That might explain McCoy's grouchiness.

Also, if one diplomat kills another on ship, or elsewhere, does Starfleet consider diplomatic immunity? Besides in BY ANY OTHER NAME anyhow? Not only was Rojan apparently never charged, he probably wrote a best-selling book about his experiences as well.:borg:

Hey Worf was an active member of Starfleet who killed the Klingon Chancellor - an all he got from Picard was basically a tut-tut, don't do it again...

Harvey October 10 2013 02:21 AM

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foxhot wrote: (Post 8748580)
I never thought there were ''nights'' on the Enterprise. Off-duty hours, certainly. But no dimmed lights. That might explain McCoy's grouchiness.

Didn't 'The Conscience of the King' suggest they dimmed the lights on board to simulate night?

Foxhot October 10 2013 01:43 PM

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D'OH!!!!!!:scream::scream::scream:

I never watched that episode enough.....

EnsignHarper October 10 2013 02:18 PM

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Harvey wrote: (Post 8749705)
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foxhot wrote: (Post 8748580)
I never thought there were ''nights'' on the Enterprise. Off-duty hours, certainly. But no dimmed lights. That might explain McCoy's grouchiness.

Didn't 'The Conscience of the King' suggest they dimmed the lights on board to simulate night?

This is a concept that got kind of lost after the production got more and more rushed.

One would have to assume that this would happen more in the non-operational areas of the ship. Although at the end of Data's Day, they show Data taking the con for the night watch (makes sense to have your android Lt Cmdr do that!), and the ambient light on the bridge dimming all so slighty.

Mycroft Maxwell October 10 2013 02:53 PM

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"Have you or a loved one been injured or killed on a starfleet mission? Have you been suffering from ill effects of alien ailments? If so you may be entitled to compensation. Open Hailing frequencies to the law offices of Sam Cogly, attorneys at law. Millions of credits have been already awarded to victims of starfleet and federation negligence. You may have a claim in a settlement. If you or a loved one believe that they qualify, enter subspace frequency 98.8. Thats subspace frequency 98.8 . Hail now. "

Dale Sams October 11 2013 02:14 AM

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Damages for the guys on the planet in "The Enemy Within"

"No one thought to beam down a ****ing tent??"

SignGuyHPW October 11 2013 06:24 AM

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I always got the impression that Kirk didn't try to hard to talk Commodore Decker out of that suicide mission. He spouted a few cliches half heartedly and just let Decker kill himself. Clearly, Decker was not of his right mind after having lost his crew. There's no way he should've been cleared to leave sickbay.

Captain Rob October 11 2013 10:03 AM

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How much does the Horta get compensated for all of the hundreds of her children that were killed? And I don't think she'd be able to take a check.


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