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Admiral_Young September 25 2013 03:48 AM

Fox Developing "Gotham" Young Jim Gordon Series
 
This sounds interesting indeed. Even being on Fox.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=109380

Christopher September 25 2013 04:04 AM

Re: Fox Developing "Gotham" Young Jim Gordon Series
 
I don't know why they don't just adapt Gotham Central for TV. It's an existing comics property that already fits the formula they seem to be going for, a cop series set in Gotham and focusing on "normals" rather than costumed heroes.

Venardhi September 25 2013 04:06 AM

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What exactly would make that any different from any old cop show? The whole 'Gotham P.D.' thing only really becomes interesting once the Batman starts complicating things. Sounds like they just want an excuse to cast a handsome hard-body 27 year old as Gordon. What is wrong with Montoya and Bullock and (Handsome Hard-body 27 year old with a name from the comics) as the leads with Gordon as a supporting cast member?

Nerys Myk September 25 2013 05:28 AM

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Might be interesting is they toss in Dr. Thomas Wayne as a supporting character.

bigdaddy September 25 2013 06:21 AM

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Another cop show... fun. Just what Fox needs. They are starting to give CBS a run for their money.

Frontier September 25 2013 07:29 AM

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FOX?

It's going to be on FOX?

The network that's created and killed more good genre shows than every other network combined?

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FreezeC77 September 25 2013 11:44 AM

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Frontier wrote: (Post 8689093)
FOX?

It's going to be on FOX?

The network that's created and killed more good genre shows than every other network combined?

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Well to be fair a major reason why FOX canceled so many genre shows is because they were one of the few networks actually giving genre shows *A CHANCE*. You'd have the rare show here and there on the other big 3 networks, but it was pretty much lawyer/cop/doctor for a good 10+ years on those networks and only in the past few years have you seen them try genre shows more frequently (Lost being a huge factor there)

Scout101 September 25 2013 11:52 AM

Re: Fox Developing "Gotham" Young Jim Gordon Series
 
other than name-dropping, though, IS it a genre show? Or just regular cop show, except they say Gotham instead of NYC? Without Batman, what's the point?

Captaindemotion September 25 2013 11:57 AM

Re: Fox Developing "Gotham" Young Jim Gordon Series
 
I'm surprised that this has ended up on Fox, given that Warner Brothers owns DC comics and their movie counterparts. Presumably they'll be producing it?

Icemizer September 25 2013 01:20 PM

Re: Fox Developing "Gotham" Young Jim Gordon Series
 
Oh look theres Edward Nigma CSI, The Cobblepot Casino, Isley's floral shop, and on and on. Just name dropping will not keep the fanboys watching this show. Having the cops be able to take down younger versions of the Bats foes just makes Batman look weak. Just give us a Batman or Nightwing series already.

Vendikarr September 25 2013 01:43 PM

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Captaindemotion wrote: (Post 8689447)
I'm surprised that this has ended up on Fox, given that Warner Brothers owns DC comics and their movie counterparts. Presumably they'll be producing it?

The article at deadline.com says it was a bidding war over which network would air it, and Fox won.

Deadline.com

Captaindemotion September 25 2013 02:17 PM

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^Ah! I didn't read the link, as I'd seen the story elsewhere on t'internet today, but without reference to the bidding war. Thanks.

Christopher September 25 2013 04:40 PM

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FreezeC77 wrote: (Post 8689423)
Well to be fair a major reason why FOX canceled so many genre shows is because they were one of the few networks actually giving genre shows *A CHANCE*. You'd have the rare show here and there on the other big 3 networks, but it was pretty much lawyer/cop/doctor for a good 10+ years on those networks and only in the past few years have you seen them try genre shows more frequently (Lost being a huge factor there)

Absolutely right. Of all the broadcast networks, FOX and UPN are the ones that have had the highest percentage of genre shows out of their total scripted shows. So naturally they've cancelled the most genre shows, because most shows get cancelled, period. And it's been a decade since Firefly, and different people are running the show now. Last year, ABC, NBC, and The CW all debuted one or more genre shows that they cancelled after just a few weeks, leaving most of their episodes unaired or burning them off months later. FOX hasn't cancelled a genre show with episodes unaired since Tru Calling in 2005. So the old "FOX kills genre shows" meme is outdated. Take an honest look at the current TV landscape and it's clear that genre shows have a better chance on FOX than they do on the other broadcast networks.



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Icemizer wrote: (Post 8689636)
Oh look theres Edward Nigma CSI, The Cobblepot Casino, Isley's floral shop, and on and on. Just name dropping will not keep the fanboys watching this show.

But that's just it -- shows like this are not made for "fanboys," because that's not a large enough audience to sustain a successful television series. The goal with shows like this and Smallville before it is to take a property with a niche appeal and reinvent it to fit a mold that has broader audience appeal, a show that will draw in the general audience that wouldn't watch a straight-up Batman or Superman show. The reason there are so many conventional, formulaic shows on TV is because lots of viewers want them. They draw in large audiences reliably in a way that more exotic concepts like SF or superheroes generally don't. Sure, superheroes are popular now, but even the most successful superhero properties tend to play down the comic-book elements or bend over backward to rationalize them and make them feel more grounded, more accessible to the general audience that's uncomfortable with capes and tights and code names.

Not that I think this is necessarily a good idea, but I have no trouble understanding why network executives would think it's a good idea. A cop show is a safer way to go.

Aldo September 25 2013 09:19 PM

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Too bad NBC didn't get it, they could have called in 'Law and Order: Gotham City'

Christopher September 25 2013 09:54 PM

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Aldo wrote: (Post 8691043)
Too bad NBC didn't get it, they could have called in 'Law and Order: Gotham City'

"In Gotham City's criminal justice system, the people are represented by three separate yet equally important groups: Batman, who investigates crime; the police, who shine the Batsignal; and the district attorneys, who ineffectually prosecute the offenders and occasionally develop homicidal split personalities. Come to think of it, only Batman is really important."


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