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mythme September 23 2013 02:35 AM

Spock's child - yay or nay?
 
I've been thinking, it was long-speculated although never confirmed nor disproven that the reason Saavik remain on Vulcan in STIV was that she was pregnant with Spock's child, having conceived during STIII after helping the regenerated Spock relieve his pon farr.

If a new series came along set in the prime timeline, how would you all feel about a character being Spock's offspring? By the llate 24th century, they would be about 120; middle-aged for a Vulcan. It might provide a nostalgic link to TOS and might also cement the cryptic line in "Sarek" about Lt. Picard attending Sarek's "son's wedding" (to Saavik?)

Or would this be a dumb idea, or maybe just redundant, having yet another Vulcan following Tuvok and T'Pol?

Maestro September 23 2013 02:43 AM

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Wasn't one of the other "Saavik is pregnant" theories that she was pregnant with David's child?

SolitaryJustice September 23 2013 02:53 AM

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It would have to be prime universe. Abrams-verse never had the genesis planet, thus no dead Spock, and no Saavik or David Marcus yet. Just throwing some facts out.

David.Blue September 23 2013 05:28 AM

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I personally don't have a problem with it. Vulcans helped found the Federation and are relatively common. Even in TOS the entire crew of USS Intrepid were Vulcans, while we've seen Vulcan admirals, captains, scientists, diplomats, even at least one Vulcan Maquis!

SolitaryJustice September 23 2013 05:30 AM

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They're everywhere, but not after Nero! (Too soon?) But seriously, in the Abrams-verse, I wouldn't say it would be super likely that you would see Vulcans everywhere. They would be an "endangered species". (Blatant throwback, Abrams-Style.)

David.Blue September 23 2013 05:41 AM

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I think you've already made the point this cannot be Abrams' alternate timeline.

Bry_Sinclair September 23 2013 07:05 AM

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I pray to whatever benevolent deity that when Trek returns to TV it is in the Prime Universe. A child/descendant of Spock wouldn't be a bad thing, I'm pretty sure when they were first starting to create TNG they planned on having Spock's grandchild on the crew as, like the OP said, a direct connection between the series.

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SolitaryJustice wrote: (Post 8679907)
It would have to be prime universe. Abrams-verse never had the genesis planet, thus no dead Spock, and no Saavik or David Marcus yet. Just throwing some facts out.

It would only work in the Prime Universe, otherwise it might be a Spock/Uhura baby, which would make it obnoxious and unstable--poor kid.

SolitaryJustice September 23 2013 07:08 AM

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Bry_Sinclair wrote: (Post 8680522)
"...otherwise it might be a Spock/Uhura baby, which would make it obnoxious and unstable--poor kid."

Beautiful, and well-played.

Bry_Sinclair September 23 2013 09:20 AM

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SolitaryJustice wrote: (Post 8680528)
Beautiful, and well-played.

Zachary Quinto is very attractive, but Zoe Saldana isn't a great actress.

David.Blue September 23 2013 04:20 PM

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I've no objection to a Spock/Uhura offspring either, in the Abrams TL (which I have some problems with but might make a good "setting" anyway).

R. Star September 23 2013 04:23 PM

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Boy between NuSpock's emoness and NuUhura's mood swings, that kid's gonna make the Kardashians look stable.

BillJ September 23 2013 06:16 PM

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Sounds terrible. Sorry.

SolitaryJustice September 23 2013 09:10 PM

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It would be cool if Spock and Uhura had a kiddo that grew up and ultimately sacrificed himself to restore the timeline... give it the whole emotional bonding to a character that gets Jossed.

R. Star September 24 2013 12:02 AM

Re: Spock's child - yay or nay?
 
Why would the kid want to sacrifice himself to restore a timeline that never existed? Maybe if things get even more fubared in the altverse I could see that being an option, but Picard said it well in Yesterday's Enterprise.

"Who's to say this history is any less proper than the other?"

That was even when he lived in a messed up universe. But really even if NuTrek is a pale imitation of the prime verse in my opinion, it needs to define itself as it's own rather than just tying back into the prime universe at every opportunity. Jest let Spock Prime die of old age or something and get on with telling their story... hopefully one that isn't a rehash of something already done before.

SolitaryJustice September 24 2013 03:39 AM

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What if Baby Spock learned from his father that "The needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few... or the one" and knew, somehow, BELIEVED (letting an emotion into a Vulcan-disciplined mind) that there was a way to save life in our galaxy, and that wasn't to assassinate a leader or begin a rebellion, it was to go find a random (yet coincidentally (and conveniently) not SO random) point in time where changing one thing can prevent assimilation and repression from taking over all life in the entire galaxy? I'd say that'd be an interesting storyline if set in the backdrop of a dark survivalist world of a galactic war between the Borg and the Dominion in an Abrams-Verse future, hundreds of years from the current stardate.


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