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Gojira September 19 2013 12:57 AM

Seasons 1 & 2.
 
I am working my way through all of TNG on DVD (after watching TOS) and I know some complain that the first two seasons are not the best. But I have found that they really are not that bad and do not deserve the bad rap they often get. I have found many episodes that I really enjoy.

The Dead Mixer September 19 2013 02:30 AM

Re: Seasons 1 & 2.
 
I don't think they're terrible...it's just that in Season 3, the show really hits its stride. Season 2 in particular has a lot of good stuff. Season 1 can be pretty spotty.

R. Star September 19 2013 02:47 AM

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It's really season 1 that's bad. I can only think of a handful of episodes in that season I really like. The worst thing I can say about season 2 is that it's not as good as seasons 3-5, but it did have a lot of gems in it.

Hober Mallow September 19 2013 02:55 AM

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I prefer the feel of the early seasons to the later ones, if not the individual stories.

RandyS September 19 2013 03:27 AM

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Hober Mallow wrote: (Post 8664511)
I prefer the feel of the early seasons to the later ones, if not the individual stories.

I feel the same way, particularly in the furnishings of the ship, alot of which dissapered after season 2, and the music, which was much more "melodic" than later on.

And, to be honest, alot of the episodes weren't THAT bad.

I still wish that we hadn't lost Tasha Yar, despite what that did for Worf. And, I'm still glad we lost Pulaski and got Crusher back though.

JirinPanthosa September 19 2013 04:05 AM

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Season 1 and 2 have some good episodes here and there, especially season 2. And although I think the later seasons were much better, I liked how in seasons 1-2 they stuck to the 'One ship alone exploring deep space' theme of the original.

The problem with season 1 was they basically had really stupid premises, they were overly committed to making Wesley the wonderkid, and they had a really one dimensional approach to characterization in general, making all the aliens seem like idiots and most of the cast seem ancillary.

(And the set designers liked dry ice way too much).

They were basically still trying to be TOS only had no idea what worked about TOS.

BillJ September 19 2013 04:09 AM

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I consider seasons one and two of TNG the best of all Modern Trek (1987-2005).

Gojira September 19 2013 12:37 PM

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JirinPanthosa wrote: (Post 8664757)
Season 1 and 2 have some good episodes here and there, especially season 2. And although I think the later seasons were much better, I liked how in seasons 1-2 they stuck to the 'One ship alone exploring deep space' theme of the original.

The problem with season 1 was they basically had really stupid premises, they were overly committed to making Wesley the wonderkid, and they had a really one dimensional approach to characterization in general, making all the aliens seem like idiots and most of the cast seem ancillary.

(And the set designers liked dry ice way too much).

They were basically still trying to be TOS only had no idea what worked about TOS.

As a big fan of TOS season 1 does really feel like TOS in many ways. I noticed that most in the set of the planets they visited.

Chensams September 19 2013 12:54 PM

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I'm rewatching them as well and I was surprised that season 1 and 2 weren't as bad as I remembered them, particularly season 2. Now they had their share of stinkers, but for the most part, the seasons were pretty good.

JirinPanthosa September 19 2013 01:22 PM

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When I watch seasons 1 and 2 I enjoy them, but that's because I know which episodes to skip.

I don't have to sit through Naked Now, Code of Honor, Haven, Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris, Justice...

Makarov September 19 2013 02:03 PM

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JirinPanthosa wrote: (Post 8665639)
When I watch seasons 1 and 2 I enjoy them, but that's because I know which episodes to skip.

I don't have to sit through Naked Now, Code of Honor, Haven, Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris, Justice...

But We'll Always Have Paris is one of the best s1 eps :eek: I like that one.

BillJ September 19 2013 02:11 PM

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JirinPanthosa wrote: (Post 8665639)

I don't have to sit through Naked Now, Code of Honor, Haven, Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris, Justice...

I like all of those except Code of Honor. :shrug:

Gojira September 19 2013 05:55 PM

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BillJ wrote: (Post 8665756)
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JirinPanthosa wrote: (Post 8665639)

I don't have to sit through Naked Now, Code of Honor, Haven, Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris, Justice...

I like all of those except Code of Honor. :shrug:


Code of Honor is like a bad TOS episode. Oh, and I do like the episode "Justice." It is strange but I do like it.

SJSharksfan39 September 19 2013 08:52 PM

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I know this is such a minor thing, but I wonder if the crew had the Season 3 and beyond uniforms in Seasons 1 and 2, if those seasons would have been better. There are some classic episodes in both those seasons, worthy to be called some of the best that TNG had to offer.

Praetor September 19 2013 11:11 PM

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I've been working through seasons one and two here recently myself - while season one has some major clunkers, season two for the most part is really quite good. While I like Diana Muldaur's Pulaski, I do find myself missing Beverly.

One of the biggest things that stands out in seasons one and two as well to me is the lighting. I think they used a lot more amber gels, IIRC.


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