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Lucky August 28 2013 04:23 AM

Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
In the TOS forum I did a poll asking the favorite of the original Trek trinity. It is well known the writers of Enterprise intended to replicate the Kirk/Spock/McCoy triumvirate with Archer, T'Pol and Trip. Which of the three characters is your favorite?

Bry_Sinclair August 28 2013 06:29 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
Trip by a sector. He was a warm, funny, charming, bright and very human character.

Archer was a bumbling idiot who was a terrible captain who had no idea how to interact with alien races, became increasingly aggressive and hostile--but then again since he was beaten up by almost every alien then encountered maybe its understandable why. They were trying to make him out to be some great hero when he simply wasn't.

As for T'Pol, it made sense to have her on board and she had an interesting arc, but she was poorly cast. If an actors idea of being emotionally detached is a pout then there are going to be problems. Add to that the totally unnecessary (and hideous) catsuits so that rather than being seen as an intelligent and logical character she is little more than titillation for fanboys.

Lucky August 28 2013 06:35 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
I voted for Trip too. I like all three, but I seemed to relate more to Trip.

Melakon August 28 2013 06:58 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
None of those three are actually my favorite.

I didn't get to see the entire series until this year. Malcolm became the character who was most interesting for me, because he keeps so much hidden. He's sort of the Illya Kuryakin of Star Trek, as Dominic Keating and David McCallum both tried to reduce the amount of information revealed about their characters.

R. Star August 28 2013 07:39 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
I'd have to go with Trip too. Archer's just a self parody, and T'Pol is artificial in more ways than one. Trip was a character I felt I could relate to a bit, even if he wasn't the guy who was going to carry a show by himself.

Dream August 28 2013 08:24 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
Trip was the best character on this stupid show. That's why TATV is so unforgivable.

Skywalker August 28 2013 09:05 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
Trip, of course. Although my opinion of Archer has improved over the years.

Infern0 August 28 2013 10:01 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
T'pol was the only one who was competent so I pick her.

Infern0 August 28 2013 10:03 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
Quote:

Melakon wrote: (Post 8566144)
None of those three are actually my favorite.

I didn't get to see the entire series until this year. Malcolm became the character who was most interesting for me, because he keeps so much hidden. He's sort of the Illya Kuryakin of Star Trek, as Dominic Keating and David McCallum both tried to reduce the amount of information revealed about their characters.

I would agree, Malcom Reed was my favorite character on the show, he seemed to have a lot of shades to him and stole the show on multiple occasions without even trying.

JariM August 28 2013 10:20 AM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
My favorites in ENT were Hoshi, Reed and Phlox.

Out of the 3 in this poll I'd choose Trip. He was rather likable and the most relatable of those 3.

teacake August 28 2013 12:00 PM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
Out of those 3 I voted for Trip. I adored T'Pol the first two times I watched ENT but subsequent viewings I found some of the bad, repetitive acting just too irritating. I do like the character, and I do like the romance between her and Trip but Trip wins.

I liked E2 T'Pol very much though :D

Archer doesn't even come into it.

Takeru August 28 2013 12:44 PM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
T'Pol! Archer was a moron and while I liked Trip I think T'Pol was the better character.

jespah August 28 2013 12:53 PM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
I'm also a Reed fan, so the poll doesn't do much for me. I am the only one who picked Archer.

T'Pol annoys me to no end - the role was so completely and thoroughly miscast.

As for Trip, I always felt like it was the writers giving us a pal and that rubbed me the wrong way on the series, as there were a lot of moments (e. g. the teaser for Similitude) that were played to really yank on our heartstrings. I had liked him before, but I have trouble relating to him now; I think they just went too heavy-handed with the everyman stuff, as if they could only give it to one character, so they larded him up with it.

I like Archer because he definitely starts out stupidly - someone had said like a Jehovah's Witness in space and to me that's spot on. He has to go through the biggest changes and has what, to me, ends up being the most satisfying arc. He absolutely loses his innocence and turns from a space boy scout into a warrior and, eventually, a nascent statesman.

And TATV is crap, but not so much for Trip's death than for the fact that it is crap on a cracker as a bad TNG episode.

Reanok August 28 2013 05:18 PM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
I voted for Trip.

gblews August 28 2013 07:47 PM

Re: Archer, T'Pol, or Trip?
 
T'Pol, because the character was actually compelling. Her "journey" was the one that interested me the most because of who she was, who she was supposed to be, and who she eventually became.


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