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yenny August 26 2013 09:36 PM

US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
Look what I had found. She is a Valiant class and has sister ship name Reliant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Defiant_%28YT-804%29

jpv2000 August 26 2013 10:48 PM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
Very cool.

Mysterion August 26 2013 10:50 PM

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I live less than a mile from the shipyard that built her. Had no idea.

Praetor August 26 2013 10:55 PM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
Neat! Wonder if she's a tough little ship?

EEMeltonIV August 26 2013 11:41 PM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
Little?

Mario de Monti August 27 2013 10:53 AM

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Finally! A real-life Reliant other than this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:19....robin.arp.jpg

Avon August 27 2013 11:23 AM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
reliant cars are cool

Mario de Monti August 27 2013 12:03 PM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
Undoubtedly ;)

USS KG5 August 27 2013 09:48 PM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
Anyone know if the crew appreciate their namesake?

Are the crew of the real USS Valiant also a bunch of douchebags? ;)

R. Star August 27 2013 10:19 PM

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That's too much of a coincidence. I think someone in the naming department is a closet Trek fan. ;)

Mario de Monti August 28 2013 08:07 AM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
Thatīs what Iīd like to believe, too :)

Robert Comsol August 28 2013 11:15 AM

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Quote:

R. Star wrote: (Post 8564221)
That's too much of a coincidence. I think someone in the naming department is a closet Trek fan. ;)

Absolutely! The HMS Defiant in the 1962 film Damn the Defiant! was an invention of the film producers, there are no records (I've seen some of them) that there was ever a ship in her majesty's navy with that name.

Most likely the TOS Defiant was inspired by the aforementioned film, maybe just because of the mutiny allusions associated with the name.

For in-universe applications this US Navy tug boat is a first step, but I hope the TOS Starship Defiant will have other predecessors with that name and not just a tug boat. ;)

Bob

sbk1234 August 28 2013 03:32 PM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
Not quite as glamorous and prestigious as on Star Trek.

J.T.B. August 28 2013 04:33 PM

Re: US. Navy Tug Boat USS. Defiant
 
It's interesting because the primary definition of "reliant" means dependent on something or someone else, not normally high on a list of military virtues. I assume people take it as short for "self-reliant," but it seems that's a fairly recent thing. I blame Lee Iacocca, myself.

Bad Thoughts August 28 2013 04:43 PM

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J.T.B. wrote: (Post 8567218)
It's interesting because the primary definition of "reliant" means dependent on something or someone else, not normally high on a list of military virtues. I assume people take it as short for "self-reliant," but it seems that's a fairly recent thing. I blame Lee Iacocca, myself.

Perhaps it's not meant to describe the vessel, but the faith the users have in the vessel (as in they rely upon it).


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