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The Overlord August 26 2013 04:36 AM

Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
For an episode that talks about honor all the time, its odd Worf wasn't in it. He could have called Lutan out on his BS, with Lutan using honor as an excuse to act like a jerk.

Dr. Sevrin August 26 2013 04:59 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
Well this is only episode 4 of the first season. Worf's honor shtick hadn't really been developed yet.

Dream August 26 2013 05:17 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
Worf released how shitty the episode would be, so he didn't show up! :p

George Steinbrenner August 26 2013 05:25 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
^ SCORCH! :techman:

Worf'sParmach August 26 2013 06:05 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
I think that at that point Worf's position hadn't really been established. He was kind of a secondary character at first, there are even some season 1 cast promo shots that don't include him .

Dream August 26 2013 06:12 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
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Worf'sParmach wrote: (Post 8557153)
I think that at that point Worf's position hadn't really been established. He was kind of a secondary character at first, there are even some season 1 cast promo shots that don't include him .

He was the absolute last main cast member added to season one IIRC.

Khaaan!!!! August 27 2013 12:37 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
I am happy Micheal Dorn wasn't on the set for filming that episode. Lets face it, That episode was pretty damn racist...I read somewhere that while they were filming it a producer was walking by the set and saw one of the scenes being filmed. according to the story the producer broke into a run toward the executive offices. Shortly thereafter the episodes director was fired by roddenberry himself.

Enterprise is Great August 27 2013 06:23 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
He knew better than to show his face in this stinker.

Timo August 27 2013 11:13 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
I guess I'll never fathom what about the episode was racist.

The production team is rumored to have been racist. The audience certainly is racist, for thinking that black people cannot be portrayed on screen, unless they are stereotypes such as police captains, brain surgeons or sexy detectives. But the episode just portrays an alien culture, pseudo-realistically for a rare once - uniquely enough, the planet isn't populated by Californians wearing forehead makeup.

As for Worf's absence, well, the preceding episode in airdate and stardate order alike was "The Naked Now". And Worf was the very last one to succumb to the intoxication there... Perhaps he was also the very last one to recover? ;)

Timo Saloniemi

Avon August 27 2013 11:36 AM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
sorry but when the stereotype is a planet of black savages that kidnap a white woman, it's racist.

you can make it sound like ooh thats just modern overzealous political correctness, but it was racist back in the 80's and it's racist now. fathom that.

Timo August 27 2013 12:28 PM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
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sorry but when the stereotype is a planet of black savages that kidnap a white woman, it's racist.
Why? Because being savage and kidnapping women is a classic black behavior pattern in reality and thus cannot be mentioned out loud? Or because it isn't? Neither concern makes any sense - savagery or kidnapping aren't dependent on skin color, and any attempt at trying to pry apart what was never joined is only indicative of a fixation amounting to a rather disgusting brand of racism.

How would the episode have been better if the locals were pink or purple in color? I guess "multi-ethnic" would make sense in this particular case, because the culture is shown to have working global transportation (they even have transporters), but it's awfully racist to insist on multi-ethnicity just for the sake of never showcasing any single ethnicity...

Timo Saloniemi

Avon August 27 2013 12:37 PM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
yes but the 'black people as savages' is a stereotype which has existed. it is an offensive stereotype.

pink or purple people do not exist, and do not have a history of being portrayed in this negative manner, therefore that's a stupid hypothetical that you're using to distract from the point i made.

(but as this might be a rare code of honor thread not specifically about racism, we might be getting away from the topic)

Timo August 27 2013 02:22 PM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
Pink people definitely exist - I am one, and I suppose you are as well. Pink people are world-famous for their savagery and kidnapping of women, too. And they have a history of being portrayed negatively. So why isn't "High Ground" a racist episode?

Timo Saloniemi

Avon August 27 2013 02:36 PM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
so that's just another way of saying you're not going to address what i said. i'm not talking about what shade of colour a black or white person is and i'm pretty sure you know it.

black people being portrayed as savages = racist stereotype, because it just is a racist stereotype that has existed. and there's not many more ways i can keep saying it.

good luck with saying black people as savages isn't a negative racist stereotype.

Timo August 27 2013 02:44 PM

Re: Why wasn't Worf in Code of Honor?
 
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so that's just another way of saying you're not going to address what i said.
Sorry, you said something?

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black people being portrayed as savages = racist stereotype, because it just is racist.
"It's racist because it's racist"? I think there should be brains involved somewhere in the process of "saying"...

Timo Saloniemi


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