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davidant32 August 22 2013 08:58 PM

Voth vs. the Borg
 
Which species is superior in terms of technology?

The Borg probably have an advantage in terms of sheer numbers and also benefit from the technology of species all over the galaxy, but the Voth have been space-faring for tens of millions of years. Being in the Delta Quadrant, I'm sure these two species have had their run-ins, or are at least aware of each other.

Poinsettia August 22 2013 11:23 PM

Re: Voth vs. the Borg
 
The Borg. They have assimilated technology of millions. If they ever have encountered each other they Borg probably found them "unremarkable" like the Kazon.

R. Star August 22 2013 11:42 PM

Re: Voth vs. the Borg
 
Really the only thing known about the Voth is they're better than Voyager. As we never saw them again, it's really just speculation.

Vanyel August 23 2013 01:52 AM

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Pondwater wrote: (Post 8542618)
The Borg. They have assimilated technology of millions. If they ever have encountered each other they Borg probably found them "unremarkable" like the Kazon.

Or is the Voth really are out numbered enough that the Borg can overwhelm them, the Voth may just be keeping their city ship away from the Borg. Space is big, they can hide forever if they want to.

Anwar August 23 2013 03:50 AM

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There are hundreds of aliens in the Trek Galaxy alone that could annihilate the Borg. The writers were just pussies who didn't have the guts to show them.

Tosk August 23 2013 04:26 AM

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Pondwater wrote: (Post 8542618)
The Borg. They have assimilated technology of millions.

That'd be thousands, surely? The Borg species designations barely scrape into the five digit range.

Vanyel August 23 2013 08:20 AM

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Tosk wrote: (Post 8544007)
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Pondwater wrote: (Post 8542618)
The Borg. They have assimilated technology of millions.

That'd be thousands, surely? The Borg species designations barely scrape into the five digit range.

As far as we know, the lowest numbered species was Species 116, Arturis' species; and the highest was Species 10026 from Voyager's Dark Frontier. The Borg would seem to number species as they meet them. So they've meet at least 10,026 species. The Species designation may go into the low hundred thousands, but that is just pure speculation on my parts. In First Contact, the Queen says:

Quote:

Brave words. I've heard them before, from thousands of species across thousands of worlds, since long before you were created. But, now they are all Borg.
So I think combining what she said along with the highest mentioned Species number, tens of thousands would be a good estimate of how many species are now Borg.

teacake August 23 2013 09:01 AM

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How many more actual Borg are there?

Thing with Borg, let's say they come across the race of similar population levels.. all they need to do is go assimilate a few more planets and BOOM they have more people. And of course not having to worry about quality of life, just how fast they can build cubes, is a plus.

teacake August 23 2013 09:15 AM

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Who were these two people who answered "dunno". Why have they got no opinion, don't they know that isn't allowed this is the internet goddamit.

Lighthammer August 23 2013 10:07 AM

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Based on what we've seen of the Voth, it seems as though the Voth have technology probably equivalent to what we've seen the Federation have in the 29th or 31st century (ball parking).

I would guess the Voth surely don't out number the Borg in any capacity, heck, the species seems to live on a ship floating amongst the stars with no actual home planet (that they know of) but they surely seem to be able to out power the Borg.

The Borg could, more then likely, mount an attack so massive against the Voth that they would widdle them down, but by the time they did, the causalities to the Borg may not be worth it, that is assuming they could corner them.

We seem to get the impression the Voth have a stronger mastery of Transwarp then the Borg do.

Bry_Sinclair August 23 2013 10:16 AM

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Only Species 8472 have proven problematic for the Borg, all others are just awaiting the day of their assimilation...that is if the Collective deems them worthy--maybe the Borg assimilated a Voth and found them lacking in their pursuit for perfection.

Infern0 August 23 2013 12:21 PM

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What we saw of the Voth leads me to belive they are a very powerful race.

Personal Cloaking Devices
Transwarp
City Ships That can swallow an intrepid class whole and disable it effortlessly.

I don't know how many ships the Voth have though, I would assume that in a battle the Borg wouldjust outlast them due to superior numbers

1 on 1 I think a Voth ship could take out a cube though

teacake August 23 2013 12:52 PM

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I think the Borg superior numbers are hilarious. It's like the ultimate card up their sleeve even if they run into an unassimilatable species with more oomph. They just retreat, assimilate, and when they reach maximum swarm capacity to overtake that species they kick ass.

Anwar August 23 2013 03:33 PM

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Bry_Sinclair wrote: (Post 8544703)
Only Species 8472 have proven problematic for the Borg, all others are just awaiting the day of their assimilation...that is if the Collective deems them worthy--maybe the Borg assimilated a Voth and found them lacking in their pursuit for perfection.

What if the Borg piss off someone like the Organians, or the Douwd or the Pah-Wraiths?

We saw for ourselves that the Borgs' power and numbers counted for absolutely nothing against the 8472 aliens.

Bry_Sinclair August 23 2013 04:12 PM

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There's no evidence the Borg can assimilat non-corporeal life-forms, but it would be pretty cool to see.


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