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Nine of Four August 21 2013 08:20 PM

Star Trek "Kahless" by Michael Jan Friedman *SPOILERS*
 
Has anyone read this book?

-:borg:

T'Ressa Dax August 21 2013 09:49 PM

Re: Star Trek "Kahless" by Michael Jan Friedman
 
I have. A long time ago though.. Haven't had a chance to go back and reread it.

Nine of Four August 21 2013 09:55 PM

Re: Star Trek "Kahless" by Michael Jan Friedman
 
I just finished it, and am I correct in assuming that the modern clone of Kahless is actually Morath?!?

-:klingon:

Relayer1 August 21 2013 09:58 PM

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T'Ressa Dax wrote: (Post 8536717)
I have. A long time ago though.. Haven't had a chance to go back and reread it.

Same here. Remember enjoying it but not many details.

I remember liking quite a lot of MJF's stuff. Does he still do Trek ?

Stevil2001 August 21 2013 11:31 PM

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I remember enjoying it. Not a classic, but a solid read. The stuff in the past was good, the present dull.

tomswift2002 August 22 2013 01:19 AM

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I remember reading it about 10 years ago. One thing that I remember is that everyone (including Starfleet) gets "tied up in knots" over the disapperance of the Kahless clone, when in fact, he just wanted a holiday.

Stevil2001 August 22 2013 02:36 AM

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^ Wasn't that A Time for War, A Time for Peace?

Use of Time August 22 2013 03:17 AM

Re: Star Trek "Kahless" by Michael Jan Friedman
 
Read it. Agree with Steve that the historic recounting of the life of Kahless was good. I didn't really care all that much for the Worf subplot.

Markonian August 22 2013 11:07 AM

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I read the book a couple of months ago, right before Left Hand of Destiny and in preparation for jumping onto IKS Gorkon. :klingon:

I enjoyed both the past as well as the present plotlines. It added depth to that alien civilisation that we got to see more of their heroic age, similar to Kira's visions of ancient Bajor.

The only downer is that Kahless II's descendance from Morath never comes up again.

It is a great read, Imho!

Christopher August 22 2013 01:07 PM

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The problem with the book's assertion (and there should be a spoiler warning on this thread) that the Kahless clone is actually a Morath clone is that he looks just like the portrait of Kahless on the wall in the temple in "Rightful Heir." That said, I do like the book's central premise that the truth about history is often very different from the version in the textbooks and/or legends (which are often more the same thing than they should be).

Garrovick August 22 2013 02:11 PM

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The historical sections were excellent, but the Worf/Picard subplot should have been reduced significantly.

I don't think Michael Jan Friedman has written any Treklit in several years - just from memory I think the last thing he wrote was Death in Winter, although I could be wrong.

trampledamage August 22 2013 03:38 PM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 8539627)
The problem with the book's assertion (and there should be a spoiler warning on this thread) that the Kahless clone is actually a Morath clone is that he looks just like the portrait of Kahless on the wall in the temple in "Rightful Heir." That said, I do like the book's central premise that the truth about history is often very different from the version in the textbooks and/or legends (which are often more the same thing than they should be).

The book's been out long enough that it shouldn't need spoiler warnings, but I've change the title of the thread anyway, just to be clear :)

Rush Limborg August 22 2013 06:02 PM

Re: Star Trek "Kahless" by Michael Jan Friedman *SPOILERS*
 
Yeah...it's a very weird book, TBH--especially in hindsight, after all the Worf-centric stuff (canon and Trek-Lit) which has him clearly still believing the legends.

But then, perhaps something happened before "The Way Of The Warrior" to discount the account scroll...? I could easily picture an "Order Of Moloth", akin to the Gnostics of Earth history (you know...the ones who wrote the "gospels" that inspired The Da Vici Code), who created the scroll around the time of Kahless's disappearance (hence the dating "proving" the scroll authentic).

tomswift2002 August 25 2013 12:06 AM

Re: Star Trek "Kahless" by Michael Jan Friedman *SPOILERS*
 
"Spoilers" on this old book????? Really? The book's been out since 96. I definitely don't think it needs spoilers (not to mention both Memory Wiki's have pretty detailed accounts of the story).

trampledamage August 25 2013 02:36 AM

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tomswift2002 wrote: (Post 8552311)
"Spoilers" on this old book????? Really? The book's been out since 96. I definitely don't think it needs spoilers (not to mention both Memory Wiki's have pretty detailed accounts of the story).

Yes I know - but what was being discussed was pretty fundamental spoiler-wise so I figured, why not.


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