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t_smitts August 16 2013 04:39 AM

If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
...do you think he might have returned in "Blood Oath", along with Kor, Kang, and Koloth?

Or do you think three original Klingons was enough?

Melakon August 16 2013 04:46 AM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
For those racking their brains, Kras was the Klingon in "Friday's Child", played by Tige Andrews.

Possibly. Apparently Andrews was approached to be the main Klingon in "Trouble with Tribbles", but couldn't do it due to other commitments, so William Campbell got it instead. Other trivia: Andrews got the Kras job due to Shatner recommending him to the casting supervisor. It was his first sci-fi role, and he had a lot of fun with the part.

CrazyMatt August 16 2013 09:27 AM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
I don't know if he would have ended up in "Blood Oath," but I think Andrews sure would have given a more memorable performance than Ned Romero if his character survived so he could play the Klingon gun-runner in "A Private Little War."

FormerLurker August 18 2013 10:05 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
I've never heard of Trouble With Tribbles being offered to Tige Andrews. It was my understanding that William Campbell got the role because John Colicos was unavailable to reprise Kor.

Melakon August 18 2013 10:17 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
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FormerLurker wrote: (Post 8523157)
I've never heard of Trouble With Tribbles being offered to Tige Andrews. It was my understanding that William Campbell got the role because John Colicos was unavailable to reprise Kor.

My source for that was Memory Alpha, which does mention the story as coming from a book I had (and is probably buried in a box around here somewhere).

Quote:

Kras was initially planned to feature as the main Klingon in "The Trouble with Tribbles". However, Tige Andrews was unable to reprise the role because the production could not fit into his schedule, as he was busy elsewhere with something that couldn't wait. Joseph Pevney noted, "Tige would have been exceptional." (The Star Trek Interview Book, p. 195)

bbailey861 August 20 2013 12:13 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
I liked Tige Andrews in the role of Kras and would certainly not have objected having him survive if only just to see him decades later to sit along side of Kor, Kang, and Koloth.

Redfern August 20 2013 12:41 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
For a while, Kras was endearingly nicknamed "Uncle Bob" by fans since the make-up was, shall we say, "subtle".

Sincerely,

Bill

MANT! August 20 2013 01:23 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
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Redfern wrote: (Post 8529760)
For a while, Kras was endearingly nicknamed "Uncle Bob" by fans since the make-up was, shall we say, "subtle".

Sincerely,

Bill

Actually it was "Bob the Discount Klingon" the nickname was circulated a few months prior to the actor's death..

Mr. Laser Beam August 20 2013 03:50 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
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bbailey861 wrote: (Post 8529688)
I liked Tige Andrews in the role of Kras and would certainly not have objected having him survive if only just to see him decades later to sit along side of Kor, Kang, and Koloth.

So you didn't consider it a Kras & Burn, then? :guffaw:

Shawnster August 20 2013 05:14 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
Kras also being the gunrunner in Private Little War (had Kras lived) is an interesting notion.

Warped9 August 20 2013 05:16 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
The Klingons of the second season didn't come across as well as those in first and even third season. Granted in "Errand Of Mercy" the focus was on John Colicos and on Michael Ansara in "Day Of The Dove," but Kang also had his wife Mara alongside which added some extra dimension to the hints we were getting of Klingon society. Even the unnamed Klingon Commander in "Elaan Of Troyius" had a measure of presence in what little we saw of him.

Tigre Andrews might have done well enough if he had returned, but much like William Campbell he came across as something of an afterthought. Absolute minimal make-up and behaviour (including speech) that was just too human like watered down any real sense of distinct character and presence.

Redfern August 20 2013 06:34 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
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MANT! wrote: (Post 8529847)
Quote:

Redfern wrote: (Post 8529760)
For a while, Kras was endearingly nicknamed "Uncle Bob" by fans since the make-up was, shall we say, "subtle".

Sincerely,

Bill

Actually it was "Bob the Discount Klingon" the nickname was circulated a few months prior to the actor's death..

D'oh, that's right. Eh, I knew there was a "Bob" somewhere in there.

Sincerely,

Bill

TREK_GOD_1 August 21 2013 05:55 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
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Melakon wrote: (Post 8513950)
Apparently Andrews was approached to be the main Klingon in "Trouble with Tribbles", but couldn't do it due to other commitments

Would that be "The Teeth of the Barracuda," the pilot for The Mod Squad? It was shot in 1967 (though the regular series began production in 1968).

Grant August 21 2013 06:38 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
Why knock Ned Romero? He had about 4 lines and all of it exposition--he had no chance to show what he could do with some meat on the part.


He's a good actor. Came back on voyager years later too!

Melakon August 21 2013 07:48 PM

Re: If Kras hadn't been killed in "Friday's Child"....
 
My favorite Ned Romero performance was as Chief Joseph in the tv movie, I Will Fight No More Forever (1975). He's still around according to IMDB (about 87 now) and his last job was in 2006 it looks like. He began his entertainment career as an opera singer.

Trek God 1, it wasn't specified what Andrews' prior commitment was in the article.


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