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kgartm1185 August 2 2013 07:36 AM

What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion War
 
What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet during the Dominion war excluding the Sovereign and Prometheus class starships? There has never been enough evidence to show which is truly the strongest on screen.

Viper78 August 2 2013 09:05 AM

Re: What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion
 
I would go with the Galaxy. It's debatable weather or not it's more powerful than the Sovereign. From what I have read the Galaxy was refit for war, & ship with a lifespan of over 100 years should be able to adapt to new technologies.

TheSubCommander August 2 2013 09:12 AM

Re: What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion
 
I'm going with a Galaxy class prepped for war at the time of the Dominion war. It was the Federation's mainstay capital ship at the time.

A Galaxy class as seen in Encounter at Farpoint, however, could possibly have its ass handed to it by a Defiant class.

Obviously Excelsiors were old at the time, and were basically ships to help fill out the fleet but not overly powerful, compared to newer ships. As far as Akira, Steamrunner and Norway classes, not enough screen time to be able to tell how powerful they were, but the last two were likely derived from the Defiant class, based on their looks.

Roboturner913 August 2 2013 09:25 AM

Re: What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion
 
In terms of pure power output it is probably the Galaxy. Bigger size, more volume, need more power.

Combat effectiveness, probably the Sovereign. Shape makes it more manuverable and presents a lower target profile.

I think from DS9 we are supposed to take away that the Galaxies are the real backbone of the combat force and that there are very few Sovereigns in service, maybe as few as one or two.

Power to size ratio, probably the Defiants.

bbjeg August 2 2013 12:56 PM

Re: What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion
 
Doesn't the Enterprise E count? It was dealing with the Son'a.

Timo August 2 2013 03:38 PM

Re: What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion
 
...But possibly only after the war.

The Galaxy is, funnily enough, the only Starfleet ship apart from the Defiant or the Danube classes to actually have actually destroyed an enemy vessel on screen. The rest had impressive ways of dying on screen, but whenever they fired at enemy units, we got at most a stock fireball over the impact point and that was that...

Klingons chopped Dominion ships to pieces just fine, though. But only with their BoPs...

Timo Saloniemi

USS Firefly August 2 2013 05:53 PM

Re: What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion
 
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Doesn't the Enterprise E count? It was dealing with the Son'a.
And that went well :)

I've voted for the Galaxy class, hopefully we see more Federation ships destroy Dominion ships when DS9 comes out on BR.

Edit_XYZ August 3 2013 01:37 AM

Re: What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion
 
The ship with the plot shield - the Defiant.
As per on-screen performance, all other starfleet ships were quite proficient at blowing up. Not so much at defeating dominion ships.

Dream August 3 2013 01:42 AM

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Edit_XYZ wrote: (Post 8461642)
The ship with the plot shield - the Defiant.
As per on-screen performance, all other starfleet ships were quite proficient at blowing up. Not so much at defeating dominion sips.

The Defiant still blew up.

Sran August 3 2013 01:54 AM

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Edit_XYZ wrote: (Post 8461642)
The ship with the plot shield - the Defiant.

Hardly accurate as the Defiant was destroyed. Exemplary reasoning as always.

--Sran

Edit_XYZ August 3 2013 02:07 AM

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Dream wrote: (Post 8461657)
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Edit_XYZ wrote: (Post 8461642)
The ship with the plot shield - the Defiant.
As per on-screen performance, all other starfleet ships were quite proficient at blowing up. Not so much at defeating dominion sips.

The Defiant still blew up.

Only to be 'resurrected' immediately - identical ship, crew with no losses.

PS:
Sran, you remain, as always, a troll.

Melakon August 3 2013 02:24 AM

Re: What is the strongest ship in the Federation fleet in the Dominion
 
Everything except each series' individual hero ship is the equivalent of a redshirt.

kgartm1185 August 3 2013 03:45 AM

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Edit_XYZ wrote: (Post 8461723)
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Dream wrote: (Post 8461657)
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Edit_XYZ wrote: (Post 8461642)
The ship with the plot shield - the Defiant.
As per on-screen performance, all other starfleet ships were quite proficient at blowing up. Not so much at defeating dominion sips.

The Defiant still blew up.

Only to be 'resurrected' immediately - identical ship, crew with no losses.

PS:
Sran, you remain, as always, a troll.

Actually, that wasn't the same ship. It was the Sao Paulo. And personally I don't get why Sisko wanted another Defiant class ship. I'd be ashamed if I got one of those. I'd rather get an Excelsior, Akira, Galaxy, or Nebula class.

Melakon August 3 2013 04:04 AM

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kgartm1185 wrote: (Post 8461960)
. . .I don't get why Sisko wanted another Defiant class ship. I'd be ashamed if I got one of those. I'd rather get an Excelsior, Akira, Galaxy, or Nebula class.

The problem I had with them destroying Defiant and then bringing her right back is it was just a shock moment for the writing staff to throw in there. I suspect they were trying to re-create that effect on the audience as when the Odyssey was dive-bombed by the Jem'Hadar. When the preview for that first appeared in syndication, everyone thought it was the Enterprise.

But obviously they only got a similar class ship so that the production didn't have to build an entirely new bridge set before wrapping up the series.

kgartm1185 August 3 2013 04:29 AM

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Melakon wrote: (Post 8462032)
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kgartm1185 wrote: (Post 8461960)
. . .I don't get why Sisko wanted another Defiant class ship. I'd be ashamed if I got one of those. I'd rather get an Excelsior, Akira, Galaxy, or Nebula class.

The problem I had with them destroying Defiant and then bringing her right back is it was just a shock moment for the writing staff to throw in there. I suspect they were trying to re-create that effect on the audience as when the Odyssey was dive-bombed by the Jem'Hadar. When the preview for that first appeared in syndication, everyone thought it was the Enterprise.

But obviously they only got a similar class ship so that the production didn't have to build an entirely new bridge set before wrapping up the series.

Oh, okay.


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