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All-Seeing I July 20 2013 10:57 PM

Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
The mysterious Woman in White, who appeared in The End of Time to warn Wilf, and the disgraced figure who stood at Rassilon's side; Russell T Davies claimed it was the Doctor's mother, fans speculated that it was either Romana or Susan. But now we know that a splinter of Clara existed as a Gallifreyan (advising the 1st Doctor on which TARDIS to steal), so perhaps in some future incarnation, she was still trying to help the Doctor even then?

DalekJim July 20 2013 11:22 PM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
I thought fandom mutually agreed to pretend that The End of Time never happened? Like that half-human thing, or the sexual assault allegations against JNT.

MickJo1701 July 21 2013 12:32 AM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
Its an interesting thought, but as its been pointed out in the past, much to the chagrin of some fans, Moffat doesn't look back to series 1-4 all that much (with bloody good reason imo).

Its similar to the speculation that David Tennant's character in the 50th could be the metacrisis Doctor... which it wont be, in fact we should never speak the word 'metacrisis' again... ever.

The Wormhole July 21 2013 02:00 AM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
Problem is when the Doctor saw the Woman in The End of Time he recognized her, but when he met Clara in The Snowmen he didn't recognize her. Which kind of rules out they could be the same. Really doesn't make a whole lot of sense that in The End of Time the Doctor could remember that random girl who lifetimes earlier told him which TARDIS to steal and then forgot all about her years later in The Snowmen.

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MickJo1701 wrote: (Post 8407981)
Its similar to the speculation that David Tennant's character in the 50th could be the metacrisis Doctor... which it wont be, in fact we should never speak the word 'metacrisis' again... ever.

Definitely not the metacrisis Doctor in the 50th since photos show Tennant wearing the brown suit.

Ar-Pharazon July 21 2013 05:14 AM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
^ What, the metacrisis Doctor can't buy a new suit? Pete's World has to have tailors (or at least Tylers).

JoeZhang July 21 2013 01:00 PM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
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DalekJim wrote: (Post 8407741)
I thought fandom mutually agreed to pretend that The End of Time never happened? Like that half-human thing, or the sexual assault allegations against JNT.

is the Jim in your name short for Jimmy?

Green Lantern July 21 2013 04:14 PM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
I choose to believe it was his mother.

Nightowl1701 July 21 2013 05:53 PM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
Since it's highly unlikely at this point we'll see Carole Ann Ford on-screen in Doctor Who ever again (I mean, if they're not using her in the 50th anniversary special of all places...), then to me the Woman in White is Susan. If the powers-that-be were ever gonna produce a regenerated version of her, or tie up her dangling plotline in any way, they'd have done it by now - and The End of Time, from all appearances, provides both in an understated way.

Photoman15 July 21 2013 08:26 PM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
RTD says it's open to your interpretation, but he considers her his mother (and he wrote it).

DalekJim July 21 2013 09:22 PM

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JoeZhang wrote: (Post 8410006)
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DalekJim wrote: (Post 8407741)
I thought fandom mutually agreed to pretend that The End of Time never happened? Like that half-human thing, or the sexual assault allegations against JNT.

is the Jim in your name short for Jimmy?

No, but you should research what the word "Caps" on the "Caps Lock" key is short for, then proceed to use it more.

EliyahuQeoni July 22 2013 06:21 AM

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DalekJim wrote: (Post 8407741)
I thought fandom mutually agreed to pretend that The End of Time never happened?

Why would anybody want to ignore it? I thought it was a great two-parter and an epic send off for the 10th Doctor.

AllStarEntprise July 22 2013 10:49 AM

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EliyahuQeoni wrote: (Post 8413459)
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DalekJim wrote: (Post 8407741)
I thought fandom mutually agreed to pretend that The End of Time never happened?

Why would anybody want to ignore it? I thought it was a great two-parter and an epic send off for the 10th Doctor.

Because most people don't like that 10 died. I literally have friends who has skipped the 10 specials after series 4 and jumped right into series 5 with Matt Smith. All to avoid the reality of Tennant no longer being the Doctor.

Nightowl1701 July 23 2013 12:20 AM

Re: Was Clara The Woman in White?
 
Or just to avoid dealing with the most drawn-out, tearjerking, over-melodramatic regeneration episode ever...

Phily B July 23 2013 09:59 PM

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AllStarEntprise wrote: (Post 8413816)
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EliyahuQeoni wrote: (Post 8413459)
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DalekJim wrote: (Post 8407741)
I thought fandom mutually agreed to pretend that The End of Time never happened?

Why would anybody want to ignore it? I thought it was a great two-parter and an epic send off for the 10th Doctor.

Because most people don't like that 10 died. I literally have friends who has skipped the 10 specials after series 4 and jumped right into series 5 with Matt Smith. All to avoid the reality of Tennant no longer being the Doctor.

That is really sad.

Sindatur July 23 2013 10:09 PM

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Phily B wrote: (Post 8420335)
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AllStarEntprise wrote: (Post 8413816)
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EliyahuQeoni wrote: (Post 8413459)

Why would anybody want to ignore it? I thought it was a great two-parter and an epic send off for the 10th Doctor.

Because most people don't like that 10 died. I literally have friends who has skipped the 10 specials after series 4 and jumped right into series 5 with Matt Smith. All to avoid the reality of Tennant no longer being the Doctor.

That is really sad.

LOL, that might work, aside from the fact that 11 is now the Doctor in Series 5, and 10 must have died to put 11 there, so reality didn't change :guffaw:


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