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bbjeg July 12 2013 04:18 PM

Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
Was the Enterprise the only ship to have a letter following it (like Enterprise A, D, J, etc.)?

Pavonis July 12 2013 04:33 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
The Yamato in "Where Silence Has Lease" was NCC-1305-E, though that was an illusion generated by Nagilum. It checked out as far as Riker was concerned. The real Yamato was seen later with a different registry.

In practice, only Enterprises had the same registry with incrementing letters.

Melakon July 12 2013 04:36 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
It may be the only one we ever heard about. But technically, the letter followed the registry number, not the name. The Enterprise-A, Enterprise-Z, etc., was just dramatic shorthand for the viewer's convenience. If we hadn't been watching, they would have just called them all Enterprise.

bbjeg July 12 2013 05:11 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
Could it be a 'flagship only' thing?

Pavonis July 12 2013 05:18 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
No. Only Picard's first Enterprise was ever referred to as a "flagship". Even his second one wasn't called that. And Kirk's ship was just one of the workhorses of the fleet, no more special than any other starship.

Robert Comsol July 12 2013 05:31 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
Quote:

Pavonis wrote: (Post 8369098)
The Yamato in "Where Silence Has Lease" was NCC-1305-E, though that was an illusion generated by Nagilum. It checked out as far as Riker was concerned. The real Yamato was seen later with a different registry.

But, of course, NCC-1305-E was an original intention of the producers, they only changed their mind (unfortunately, I should add).

In my world the Galaxy Class USS Yamato is the fifth starship to bear this name, similar story with some of the ships they named Valiant.

Bob

King Daniel Into Darkness July 12 2013 05:36 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
The USS Excalibur-A in the New Frontier novels.

Forbin July 12 2013 05:41 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
^T'ain't canon.

Pavonis July 12 2013 05:42 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
I heard that one of the writers thought the registry of ships had a new format in TNG. Since Enterprise was NCC-1701-D, the reasonable extrapolation was that all starships were four numbers and a letter. Furthermore, since Yamato was a sister ship of Enterprise, it might have made sense for their registries to be related. Whomever gave the Yamato its registry may have thought that all the Galaxy-class ships had letters in their registries. Hence -D would be followed by -E, and preceded by -C. Yamato may not have been intended to be the sixth of the name, but the fifth Galaxy-class ship with Enterprise the fourth.

King Daniel Into Darkness July 12 2013 05:48 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
Quote:

Forbin wrote: (Post 8369353)
^T'ain't canon.

Still vetted by the Trek copyright holders. If they had some sort of "only the Enterprise can have a letter" rule, it wouldn't have been allowed.

Use of Time July 12 2013 05:54 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
Starfleet commissioned a USS Saratoga-A in Michael Jan Friedman's Saratoga novel.

Pavonis July 12 2013 06:01 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
There have been multiple Lexingtons, Intrepids, Potemkins, and Excaliburs, so by the 24th century pretty much every ship should have a letter in its registry. Personally, I'd have dropped the letter on the registry for Enterprises after the -A. The Excelsior-class Enterprise and all the subsequent ships should've had a different number.

SchwEnt July 12 2013 06:29 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
^^^ I agree, it is a bit silly.

IRL navies honor previous ships Yorktown, Lexington, Ark Royal, Essex, Bonhomme Richard and others by carrying on the legendary names. The hull numbers aren't passed on to subsequent vessels.

ST's use of 1701-A, B, and so on indicates an honorific to a particular hull number (Constitution class Enterprise only) rather than just the historic name Enterprise.

Is that necessary? Isn't the name Enterprise sufficient? Especially when it's reinforced that the historic tradition extends back centuries to sea-going Enterprise ships, not just starting with the Constitution-class starship.

Faria July 12 2013 07:21 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
I thing it's a shame that the uss Sao paolo in the seventh season of DS9 was renamed Defiant NCC-75633 ant not Defiant NX-74205-A

Pavonis July 12 2013 07:31 PM

Re: Are there any other ships with a letter?
 
See, the thing is, we should assume that every ship in Starfleet has some kind of illustrious history that is worthy of preserving. Therefore, every ship would carry the registry of its namesake, with a letter. But then if every ship's name has some history behind it, why honor any of them? If they're all special, then they're all equal, too. Why give Enterprise or Defiant a special place in the books? How many times did the crew of the Farragut or the Intrepid save the universe? Maybe as many times as any Enterprise did.

Honoring the Enterprise name is a bone to the fans, but the general populace of the UFP or the top brass of Starfleet shouldn't think anything more of a hull with Enterprise painted on it than they should of a hull with Pansy painted on it.


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