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Khan Harrison July 3 2013 07:59 PM

LOTR's decade attempt. lets do this!
 
So for ten years I have been trying to read LOTR.

Going to accomplish that this summer, but I need some help
I hate the 2 book structure i get SO BORED JUST following Sam and Frodo for an entire book. What chapters should I read in order to intertwine the story the way the movies do?

theenglish July 3 2013 08:40 PM

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Khan Harrison wrote: (Post 8331580)
So for ten years I have been trying to read LOTR.

Going to accomplish that this summer, but I need some help
I hate the 2 book structure i get SO BORED JUST following Sam and Frodo for an entire book. What chapters should I read in order to intertwine the story the way the movies do?

Well, that's a little complicated. Books Three and Four do not really follow the same timeline. The movies introduced a fair amount of extra material not found in the books to extend Frodo and Sam's journey.

Really though, Sam and Frodo's major section is in second half of TTTs. Only the first three or four chapters of book six actually deal with them alone. If you would like though there is no reason one couldn't reader TTTs by alternating chapters, although chapter two of both books three and four tend to be the slowest reads.

Locutus of Bored July 3 2013 09:05 PM

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Khan Harrison wrote: (Post 8331580)
What chapters should I read in order to intertwine the story the way the movies do?

I've always been a big fan of the chapters where the characters are walking around to different places.

CorporalClegg July 3 2013 09:08 PM

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I actually clicked on the thread expecting a post about the films' collective runtime.

FPAlpha July 3 2013 10:04 PM

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Why not try and read the book as it is and mentally separate it from the movies?

The book may feel a little bit anachronistic to today's audience.. hell, it opens up with a discussion about pipeweed and the merits of certain kinds (which ultimately does have some importance to the story ;)), not exactly how one would imagine a story to start about the ultimate battle between good and evil.

The book takes its strength from the imagination of the reader.. Tolkien goes to great length in describing Middle Earth and everything in it and it seems todays audience sometimes just don't have the patience or desire to lose themselves and create mental images themselves (something that could be said in general about general reading and stories).

So my advice would be to sit back, try to erase the movie pictures from your mind and enjoy the story.. let yourself be drawn into it and do not compare it to the movies. I guarantee you a wonderful experience if you're willing and capable to get lost in a story and enjoy it for what it is.

Merlanthe July 3 2013 11:43 PM

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Im part way through a reread not having read it in over 10 years. When its good its very very good and hard to put down but when its slow i find myself wandering off and reading whole other novels before coming back to it again. Reading the books is also increasing my irritation with the movies.

Stevil2001 July 4 2013 02:56 AM

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I have childhood memories of being bored by the whole thing, but I recently reread it, and I did it by reading it in the six-book format, and widely spacing the six books (about one a month). I really liked doing it that way, though to my surprise, the hobbits wandering around turned out to be some of my favorite stuff!

http://www.lessaccurategrandmother.b...20middle-earth

Also, this order seems to break it down to clumps of a few chapters: http://www.chronology.org/tolkientab...nological.html

theenglish July 4 2013 05:24 AM

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FPAlpha wrote: (Post 8332192)
Why not try and read the book as it is and mentally separate it from the movies?

The book may feel a little bit anachronistic to today's audience.. hell, it opens up with a discussion about pipeweed and the merits of certain kinds (which ultimately does have some importance to the story ;)), not exactly how one would imagine a story to start about the ultimate battle between good and evil.

The book takes its strength from the imagination of the reader.. Tolkien goes to great length in describing Middle Earth and everything in it and it seems todays audience sometimes just don't have the patience or desire to lose themselves and create mental images themselves (something that could be said in general about general reading and stories).

So my advice would be to sit back, try to erase the movie pictures from your mind and enjoy the story.. let yourself be drawn into it and do not compare it to the movies. I guarantee you a wonderful experience if you're willing and capable to get lost in a story and enjoy it for what it is.

I don't know if I buy this argument about the patience of modern readers. Song of Ice and Fire goes into great descriptive lengths and back story about its world, but is hugely popular.

Hound of UIster July 4 2013 06:05 AM

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So is LOTR.

However the first book of Song of Ice and Fire was published in 1991. If you had someone in 2040 read it, I suspect you would get similar complaints of boredom like LOTR.

Dick Whitman July 4 2013 07:48 AM

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CorporalClegg wrote: (Post 8331883)
I actually clicked on the thread expecting a post about the films' collective runtime.

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol::lol: :guffaw: :rommie: :techman:

Same with me!

FPAlpha July 4 2013 08:14 PM

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theenglish wrote: (Post 8333860)
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FPAlpha wrote: (Post 8332192)
Why not try and read the book as it is and mentally separate it from the movies?

The book may feel a little bit anachronistic to today's audience.. hell, it opens up with a discussion about pipeweed and the merits of certain kinds (which ultimately does have some importance to the story ;)), not exactly how one would imagine a story to start about the ultimate battle between good and evil.

The book takes its strength from the imagination of the reader.. Tolkien goes to great length in describing Middle Earth and everything in it and it seems todays audience sometimes just don't have the patience or desire to lose themselves and create mental images themselves (something that could be said in general about general reading and stories).

So my advice would be to sit back, try to erase the movie pictures from your mind and enjoy the story.. let yourself be drawn into it and do not compare it to the movies. I guarantee you a wonderful experience if you're willing and capable to get lost in a story and enjoy it for what it is.

I don't know if I buy this argument about the patience of modern readers. Song of Ice and Fire goes into great descriptive lengths and back story about its world, but is hugely popular.


I've heard this argument from many people after the movies came out and they wanted to give the book a shot.

Consensus was that especially the detailed description parts where Tolkien wanders off for a few pages bored them until they decided to put the book down and focus on the movies (and the movies also taxed their patience because each one went over 3 hours and they didn't even bother with the Extended Editions).

Song of Ice and Fire is about the same ballpark.. as awesome as the show is the books are even greater but they do involve a serious commitment of time and it seems people are less and less willing to do that (especially if there is a movie or show about the book). People who read as a hobby don't really count as they enjoy spending time with books and don't consider it "work" something like that.

Davros July 4 2013 09:47 PM

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I am always baffled when I hear about people being bored reading Lord Of The Rings.

Greg Cox July 5 2013 12:17 AM

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Davros wrote: (Post 8336440)
I am always baffled when I hear about people being bored reading Lord Of The Rings.

I confess I gave up midway through the first book in high school and never picked it up again. (And this was at a point when I was devouring every Michael Moorcock book I could get my hands on.)

I suppose I should give Tolkien another try someday.

Theonethatis July 5 2013 10:44 AM

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If you can get through the first 130 pages your golden. It picks up significantly after that. This is about the time the hobbits get to Bree.

IndyJones July 6 2013 02:56 AM

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Davros wrote: (Post 8336440)
I am always baffled when I hear about people being bored reading Lord Of The Rings.

It's been a long time, but I quit somewhere near Tom Bombadil.


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