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bbjeg July 1 2013 09:18 PM

Must see TOS episodes
 
My father was a TOS Trekkie and since I was a kid, we've gathered in front of the TV to watch TNG, DS9, Voyager, and all of the movies but I never got around to watch TOS all the way through. I've heard mixed feelings toward the series and instead of watching every episode, I was wondering which are the best/must see episodes of TOS. Watching every episode of the following series and movies, I get the story but I'm looking for those "oh, that's how that started" or "that's where he is from" episodes.

Their are top 10 threads but I'm also interested in continuation stories followed up in the later series.

alexianyc July 1 2013 09:28 PM

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bbjeg wrote: (Post 8323048)
My father was a TOS Trekkie and since I was a kid, we've gathered in front of the TV to watch TNG, DS9, Voyager, and all of the movies but I never got around to watch TOS all the way through. I've heard mixed feelings toward the series and instead of watching every episode, I was wondering which are the best/must see episodes of TOS. Watching every episode of the following series and movies, I get the story but I'm looking for those "oh, that's how that started" or "that's where he is from" episodes.

Their are top 10 threads but I'm also interested in continuation stories followed up in the later series.

A few suggestions, if what you're looking for is sort of how things got started.

The second pilot, Where No Man Has Gone Before. Kirk is the captain, Spock is there, but the rest of the crew isn't there yet, and it's interesting to see how the show changed from WNMHGB.

The Menagerie, a two part episode which includes footage from the first pilot. It gives Star Trek the feel of an actual world with a history and Spock a backstory.

Balance of Terror - where the the Romulans appear.

Errand of Mercy - where the Klingons appear.

Amok Time - which has Vulcan history and, um, interesting mating rituals.

BillJ July 1 2013 11:29 PM

Re: Must see TOS episodes
 
Season One:

The Cage - first episode
Where No Man Has Gone Before - first Kirk episode
The Corbomite Maneuver - first production episode
The Naked Time - character episode, first time travel
Balance of Terror - first Romulan episode
Tomorrow is Yesterday - first time travel to "present" day Earth
The Return of the Archons - first mention of the Prime Directive
This Side of Paradise - some Spock backstory
Errand of Mercy - first Klingon episode
The City on the Edge of Forever - first time we see the effects of time travel, consensus best episode of the series

Nero's Shadow July 1 2013 11:50 PM

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Amok time is a must !!!

Harvey July 2 2013 01:23 AM

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bbjeg wrote: (Post 8323048)
Their are top 10 threads but I'm also interested in continuation stories followed up in the later series.

As far as episodes that are continued go...

"The Naked Time" has a sequel (more of a remake, really) on TNG.
"Errand of Mercy" has a prequel on ENT.
"Mirror Mirror" has several sequels on DS9.
"Journey to Babel" introduces Sarek, who reappears in several of the movies and TNG, as well as several aliens which are important to ENT.
"The Tholian Web" has a sequel on ENT (which is also a sequel to "Mirror, Mirror").

The Klingons from "Errand of Mercy," "The Trouble with Tribbles," and "Day of the Dove" reappear on DS9 (one is also on VOY).

bbjeg July 2 2013 02:32 AM

Re: Must see TOS episodes
 
Thanks for the checklists. It's a good start point. I feel I'm not missing too much skipping about TOS, being a fan of everything else after it.

ZapBrannigan July 2 2013 04:27 AM

Re: Must see TOS episodes
 
Rather than watch just a short list, how about putting in the time as a general Star Trek fan and watch the majority of episodes?

If you want to avoid the disappointments, I suggest you skip:
  • The Alternative Factor
  • And the Children Shall Lead
  • Plato's Stepchildren
  • Whom Gods Destroy
  • The Way to Eden
  • The Cloud Minders
  • The Savage Curtain
You'll miss a lot of things that we're nostalgic about that aren't really that great, and this way you'll see all the really good episodes.

Nero's Shadow July 3 2013 10:56 PM

Re: Must see TOS episodes
 
Another one of my favourites is The Apple love that episode got some great stuff redshirts deaths loads of them Spock getting stung, struck by lighting some great exchanges from McCoy and Spock !!! And overall a good episode !!!

Gov Kodos July 3 2013 11:00 PM

Re: Must see TOS episodes
 
Spock's Brain, great entertainment and wonderful corrective to the idea that this show is some visionary masterpiece.

marksound July 3 2013 11:05 PM

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alexianyc wrote: (Post 8323102)
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bbjeg wrote: (Post 8323048)
My father was a TOS Trekkie and since I was a kid, we've gathered in front of the TV to watch TNG, DS9, Voyager, and all of the movies but I never got around to watch TOS all the way through. I've heard mixed feelings toward the series and instead of watching every episode, I was wondering which are the best/must see episodes of TOS. Watching every episode of the following series and movies, I get the story but I'm looking for those "oh, that's how that started" or "that's where he is from" episodes.

Their are top 10 threads but I'm also interested in continuation stories followed up in the later series.

A few suggestions, if what you're looking for is sort of how things got started.

The second pilot, Where No Man Has Gone Before. Kirk is the captain, Spock is there, but the rest of the crew isn't there yet, and it's interesting to see how the show changed from WNMHGB.

The Menagerie, a two part episode which includes footage from the first pilot. It gives Star Trek the feel of an actual world with a history and Spock a backstory.

Balance of Terror - where the the Romulans appear.

Errand of Mercy - where the Klingons appear.

Amok Time - which has Vulcan history and, um, interesting mating rituals.

All good, highly recommended.

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Nero's Shadow wrote: (Post 8332450)
Another one of my favourites is The Apple love that episode got some great stuff redshirts deaths loads of them Spock getting stung, struck by lighting some great exchanges from McCoy and Spock !!! And overall a good episode !!!

Some friends and I went to a local club meeting in about 1975. They showed The Apple on 16mm, and it was a little disappointing. Not my favorite episode. :/

bbjeg July 9 2013 04:32 AM

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ZapBrannigan wrote: (Post 8324563)
Rather than watch just a short list, how about putting in the time as a general Star Trek fan and watch the majority of episodes?

If you want to avoid the disappointments, I suggest you skip:
  • The Alternative Factor
  • And the Children Shall Lead
  • Plato's Stepchildren
  • Whom Gods Destroy
  • The Way to Eden
  • The Cloud Minders
  • The Savage Curtain
You'll miss a lot of things that we're nostalgic about that aren't really that great, and this way you'll see all the really good episodes.

The "Must see"'s mention was just the spur I needed to watch the whole series though I would like to skip the disappointing episodes. If anyone objects to this list or wants to add to it, I'll take your word for it.

Mario de Monti July 9 2013 09:08 AM

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bbjeg wrote: (Post 8353654)
Quote:

ZapBrannigan wrote: (Post 8324563)
Rather than watch just a short list, how about putting in the time as a general Star Trek fan and watch the majority of episodes?

If you want to avoid the disappointments, I suggest you skip:
  • The Alternative Factor
  • And the Children Shall Lead
  • Plato's Stepchildren
  • Whom Gods Destroy
  • The Way to Eden
  • The Cloud Minders
  • The Savage Curtain
You'll miss a lot of things that we're nostalgic about that aren't really that great, and this way you'll see all the really good episodes.

The "Must see"'s mention was just the spur I needed to watch the whole series though I would like to skip the disappointing episodes. If anyone objects to this list or wants to add to it, I'll take your word for it.

Well like everything else, this is mostly a matter of taste and personal preference. I actually quite like The Way to Eden (the "hippie episode") and Whom Gods Destroy as well as The Cloud Minders are intersting too, IMHO.

I would rather skip these episodes:
  • Assignment: Earth - It was intended as a spin-off episode to a new TV show (set on earth) that never came to be, and thus focuses on the "new" characters, instead of Kirk & Co. In addition, itīs yet another time travel episode that takes place on (then) present day earth - I donīt care much for those.
  • A Piece of the Action - While somewhat entertaining at times, itīs mostly silly, IMO: Kirk & Co. discover a "mob planet" modelled after Chicago in the 1920s and dress and behave accordingly.
  • Patterns of Force - Kirk & Co. discover a "Nazi Planet" ... and dress and behave accordingly. A very questionable episode, IMHO. It was actually banned in Germany for decades.
Anyway, thatīs just my suggestion, YMMV :)

ZapBrannigan July 9 2013 04:30 PM

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Mario de Monti wrote: (Post 8354197)
Well like everything else, this is mostly a matter of taste and personal preference. I actually quite like The Way to Eden (the "hippie episode") and Whom Gods Destroy as well as The Cloud Minders are intersting too, IMHO.

I would rather skip these episodes:
  • Assignment: Earth - It was intended as a spin-off episode to a new TV show (set on earth) that never came to be, and thus focuses on the "new" characters, instead of Kirk & Co. In addition, itīs yet another time travel episode that takes place on (then) present day earth - I donīt care much for those.
  • A Piece of the Action - While somewhat entertaining at times, itīs mostly silly, IMO: Kirk & Co. discover a "mob planet" modelled after Chicago in the 1920s and dress and behave accordingly.
  • Patterns of Force - Kirk & Co. discover a "Nazi Planet" ... and dress and behave accordingly. A very questionable episode, IMHO. It was actually banned in Germany for decades.
Anyway, thatīs just my suggestion, YMMV :)


Okay, he can skip "Assignment: Earth"-- if he's not a Teri Garr fan and doesn't love cats or the Saturn V rocket.

"Patterns of Force" has some imagery that is striking (literally) and unforgettable, especially where Kirk and Spock are interrogated. But it's not a big must-see.

"A Piece of the Action" is a good comedy, on a par with "The Trouble with Tribbles," and as such I say leave it in.

CaptPapa July 9 2013 06:19 PM

Re: Must see TOS episodes
 
Quote:

bbjeg wrote: (Post 8353654)
Quote:

ZapBrannigan wrote: (Post 8324563)
Rather than watch just a short list, how about putting in the time as a general Star Trek fan and watch the majority of episodes?

If you want to avoid the disappointments, I suggest you skip:
  • The Alternative Factor
  • And the Children Shall Lead
  • Plato's Stepchildren
  • Whom Gods Destroy
  • The Way to Eden
  • The Cloud Minders
  • The Savage Curtain
You'll miss a lot of things that we're nostalgic about that aren't really that great, and this way you'll see all the really good episodes.

The "Must see"'s mention was just the spur I needed to watch the whole series though I would like to skip the disappointing episodes. If anyone objects to this list or wants to add to it, I'll take your word for it.


That's the problem - taking someone else's word for the quality, or lack of in the episodes. It's all subjective; so why not watch them all and reach your own conclusion.

Mario de Monti July 10 2013 09:28 AM

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CaptPapa wrote: (Post 8355604)
That's the problem - taking someone else's word for the quality, or lack of in the episodes. It's all subjective; so why not watch them all and reach your own conclusion.

That IS the best solution - if youīre willing to watch all the episodes. Even the most "critically acclaimed" or fan-favourite episodes you personally may not like at all - and vice versa.
Thatīs actually true with several episodes (and movies) for me :)


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