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SJK91 June 24 2013 04:49 PM

The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Greetings, all.

This is my first post into the world of Star Trek, so I'm pretty pumped. Just a little backstory: After walking out of Star Trek Into Darkness very pleased (to the dismay of some of you), it hit me that I had NEVER seen any older Star Trek film, Kirk nor Picard. Well, that is about to change.

Surprisingly, I wasn't able to find this thread anywhere on this site, so I dedicate it to the last star trek film you watched. Feel free to post, and be as detailed or concise as you want. Use this thread for first viewings and for lazy Sunday re-watches, too!

I have started my trek into the films of Star Trek, and have just recently completed.....

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Star Trek: The Motion Picture (The Director's Edition)

I'll just get this one out of the way - yes, Star Trek: The Motion Picture has some SERIOUS pacing issues. It is far too long, and likely could have been cut by at least 20 minutes.

However...

I was surprised by how intellectual the film is. I found the plot with V'ger quite fascinating - so much so that it almost made up for the lack of forward action in the story. Because pacing aside, TMP's strongest trait is its plot. It takes a while for things to get moving during the entire course of the film, but when they are moving, the film is can actually be fairly strong. I read that the director, Robert Wise, wanted this film to be the "spiritual successor" to 2001: A Space Odyssey. While TMP is obviously not as good as A Space Odyssey, I can appreciate the 2001 influence TMP has. And indeed, Star Trek: The Motion Picture does capture some of the tones of the Kubrick classic.

Some people scoff at the fact that TMP is pretty much a reunion film, but (with the exception of the 3 hour long introduction of the Enterprise) I thought the re-introductions of the characters were done well enough. I can already tell that Dr. "Bones" McCoy is going to be a favorite of mine. Then there is (in)famous Captain Kirk. William Shatner is an acquired taste, that is for sure. But his screen presence is fantastic, and I thought Shatner whips up a very respectable performance.

Overall, I was pleasantly surprised with Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The excessive length can be incredibly tedious and should not be overlooked, but I found it to be the film's only significant flaw. (Albeit it is a fairly large one.) If you stick with the film and push your attention span to its limits, TMP contains a very interesting story.

Oh, and I almost forgot: Jerry Goldsmith's score is a big reason why some of the overly long special effects shots didn't bore me (as much as it would have). Goldsmith's score is both haunting and elegant, and it makes for one hell of a soundtrack. Certainly one of the best sci-fi scores I've ever heard.

Footnote: I understand that the Director's Edition of this film is better than the original theatrical version. I am almost unsure if I even want to watch the theatrical version now, as I did mostly enjoy this director's cut.

1. Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Director's Edition) (1979) - 7/10

Up next....

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (Director's Edition)


A final footnote: If I should be posting this in another thread, I would not be offended if one of you moderators directed me to it! Much appreciated!

Sector 7 June 24 2013 07:32 PM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
The last Star Trek film I watched was Star Trek: Into Darkness. The last original film I watched was Star Trek: The Voyage Home. It is still a favorite of mine.

Once you have finished all the ST films, may I suggest watching Galaxy Quest? It is an homage to Star Trek's original series.

MacLeod June 24 2013 07:34 PM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Into Darkness for me also.

Faria June 24 2013 08:41 PM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Into Darkness, and i didn't like it

Greg Cox June 24 2013 08:49 PM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Into Darkness, of course.

Third Nacelle June 24 2013 08:54 PM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
I saw Into Darkness a couple weeks ago, but upon getting home, I had to watch its antithesis: The Voyage Home.

1001001 June 25 2013 12:31 AM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

Pondwater June 25 2013 02:43 AM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Star Trek (2009), it was on FX today.

bbailey861 June 25 2013 03:00 AM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Into Darkness. I enjoyed the ride.

Caesar753 June 25 2013 04:35 AM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
I watched TWOK maybe a week ago. I'll never get sick of that movie.

SJK91 June 25 2013 09:48 AM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Continuing my very first trek into the films of Star Trek.....

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Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (Director's Edition)

In order to somewhat prep myself for the viewing of this film, I watched the Original Series episode, "Space Seed," to get some backstory.

The plot of TWOK is actually relatively simple and less cerebral than the film in which it followed, but I don't view that as a detriment. Having a simpler plot allowed TWOK to have far better pacing than TMP, and therefore makes for a more exciting viewing experience. Having the story that somewhat "checks up" on a villain of yesteryear was an interesting premise and I believe that TWOK pulls it off.

The Wrath of Khan also features some nifty subplots that lifts the film beyond a simple revenge based sci-fi adventure. Kirk's worries about his age loom over the whole film, and when Spock is jettisoned into space at the very end, Kirk's realization of feeling young makes for a great moment. The addition of Kirk's son was also a nice touch - all this parading around space hasn't been without its consequences. TWOK does a great job in bringing the larger than life Kirk down to a humble human being.

A special mention must also be made to the now famous 'Spock sacrifice' scene. The decision for Spock to sacrifice himself not only made for a neat twist, but gave the character a human trait not often associated with him. His eventual death with Kirk is a very good scene, too. Leonard Nimoy is just fantastic.

Ricardo Montalban made for a decent enough villain of the week on TOS, but hot damn did he become one of sci-fi's greatest villains in TWOK. Khan is a deliciously evil and cunning character. He is smooth yet crazed. Brilliant, but at the same time, unstable. (He is also obsessed on cold-served revenge.) Montalban steals the show here and he is a very large reason why TWOK works so well. Talk about having a screen presence.

Not to be outdone (naturally) is William Shatner. Like I said in my TMP review, he is one to get used to, but I feel I am already there. The greatest scene is the film is easily Kirk's confrontation with Khan via the communicator ("Khan you bloodsucker!"), and that truly is a feat. The two characters never actually meet in this scene, but through Montalban's and, dare I say it, Shatner's performances, the scene makes for one of the most memorable in sci-fi cinema. Deforest Kelley, James Doohan and the rest of the regulars are as reliable as ever, as well.

Now, here is where I may surprise some of you. I do believe there is just one major thing Star Trek: The Motion Picture did BETTER than Star Trek II - and that was create mood. TMP painted a very mysterious and almost frightening image of space, and sometimes even went out of its way to do so. It doesn't seem to me this was fully realized in The Wrath of Khan - not to say that this is a fatal flaw, but one of my reasons for enjoying TMP was its ominous and intimidating depiction of space. (Perhaps this stems from the fact that I found Goldsmith's elegantly eerie TMP score slightly more effective than Horner's bombastic one. Though TWOK's score is still great.)

Something silly, but it must be mentioned: For some odd reason I was annoyed at the reused special effects footage from The Motion Picture. Of course, this was pretty much a non issue and I understand that it was done for budgetary restrictions, but it was so damned obvious to me - particularly the reused shot of the Enterprise that was the final (and slightly iconic) shot of The Motion Picture. Did they think people wouldn't recognize that?!

In the end, however, The Wrath of Khan is an improvement over its predecessor. With a great villain, simple but engaging plot and small but effective human touches, I can fully understand why many consider TWOK to be such a classic.

1. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (Director's Edition) (1982) - 8.5/10
2. Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Director's Edition) (1979) - 7/10

Up next....

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock

*** - Minor revision: I'm changing TWOK from an 8 to an 8.5. The more I think about it, the better it was.

Belz... June 25 2013 12:20 PM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
First Contact, for me.

Quote:

SJK91 wrote: (Post 8296675)
Did they think people wouldn't recognize that?!

Remember that home video wasn't what it is today, back then.

Use of Time June 25 2013 02:29 PM

Re: The Last Star Trek Film You Watched
 
Into Darkness.

SJK91 June 25 2013 04:31 PM

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Quote:

Belz... wrote: (Post 8296885)
Quote:

SJK91 wrote: (Post 8296675)
Did they think people wouldn't recognize that?!

Remember that home video wasn't what it is today, back then.

I suppose you are correct. Never actually thought of home video as a factor for that.

BillJ June 25 2013 05:13 PM

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Star Trek 2009 with my six-year old son last night on FX.


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