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xvicente June 22 2013 08:37 PM

Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
(I just saw a clip of Picard and Wesley eating sandwiches in that episode they are in a shuttlecraft. Then I remebered Scotty's famous line from ST09)

Do they have sandwiches in the future?

And cheese, and sausages, among other things?
Sandwiches were invented so people could eat outside and hold the moist, oily food between pieces of bread (itself an invention to conserve grain from spoiling)

Cheese was invented before refrigerators existed so to preserve milk. Sausages and salted, dried, smoked, jerked meats too, for the same reasons.

In the 1960s (and until today) the astrounauts' food was even more enginnered because of the necessities of storing and consuming in zero-gee etc.

But in Star Trek they have replicators! They can replicate fresh fruit and raw meat and grains and all kind of perishables like poof!-- fresh, no need for the food to be subjected to prehistoric techniques of preparation and storing.

In TOS Kirk is seen to eat small colored cubes. Is it possible THAT properly represents the food of the future, replicated nutrition from pure energy, unrestricted by storage and conservation requirements?

The Old Building & Loan June 22 2013 11:44 PM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
^In TOS, Kirk was also known to indulge in a chicken sandwich. See "The Trouble with Tribbles."

Bumbles861 June 23 2013 12:05 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
Why not replicate sandwiches. They're compact, convenient, great to eat, and the variations are only limited by your imagination. I really don't know anyone who doesn't like sandwiches and I don't know why they wouldn't remain popular well into the future.

solariabsg25 June 23 2013 12:13 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
Sandwiches were actually invented so an Earl could continue with his gambling without leaving the table for a meal. Pasties were invented to protect food from coal and dirt for miners.

We've had refrigeration for a century now, no-one's said that we may as well stop eating cheese as we don't need to preserve milk.

Just because food can be replicated doesn't mean that tastes in food may change. You look at TNG, they replicate a roast chicken, it looks like a roast chicken. In theory, they could make a chicken that's just a square block, with no bones, but they like the traditional look.

In TOS they had galleys (In Charlie X they were mentioned as being surprised by having actual turkeys in the ovens). The food cubes were probably simply an attempt at creating "future" food. Something they used or ignored at any time.

Poinsettia June 23 2013 12:41 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
Tom said something Seven prepared needed more salt and she offered a peanut butter sandwich.

Sran June 23 2013 01:40 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
^I also remember Janeway saying that she lived on peanut butter and jelly while at the Academy.

--Sran

Merry Christmas June 23 2013 05:30 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
They have soup in the future, if only so Spock can throw it against a wall.

I think that the food on the 23rd century Enterprise is cubes, is because that's the way it comes out of their food machines. It's manufactured in a slab inside the machine and cut to uniformed sizes.

Consider present day Campbell's vegetable beef soup, little squares of beef, potato, and carrots in broth.

Kirk's "chicken sandwich" might have had perfectly square slices of bread and meat. Square slices of tomato, square pieces of lettuce.

A perfect rectangle of zesty pickle on the side.

:)

robau June 23 2013 06:34 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
I want someone to invent a pill that makes food unnecessary.

desertstarlover June 23 2013 07:25 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
Little food cubes will likely become widely available in the future because they are convenient and compact, They are utilitarian and have their purpose. However, our species has been gathering around food since the dawn of time. Preparing and eating meals with others is as much of a social experience as it is a provider of sustenance. Sandwiches, pizza and other items that lend themselves easily to variety should become even more common, yet varied.

Captain Rob June 23 2013 08:00 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
I'm programming my replicator for peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches. My favorite lunch. And pepperoni pizza.

Merry Christmas June 23 2013 10:28 AM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
Quote:

robau wrote: (Post 8286952)
I want someone to invent a pill that makes food unnecessary.

Cyanide?

Rķu rķu, chķu June 23 2013 03:25 PM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
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T'Girl wrote: (Post 8286778)
I think that the food on the 23rd century Enterprise is cubes, is because that's the way it comes out of their food machines. It's manufactured in a slab inside the machine and cut to uniformed sizes.

That's an Andorian food called 'gristhera'. It's supposed to be VERY popular among aliens and that's why you always see it served at diplomatic functions.

Chemahkuu June 23 2013 03:33 PM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
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T'Girl wrote: (Post 8287345)
Quote:

robau wrote: (Post 8286952)
I want someone to invent a pill that makes food unnecessary.

Cyanide?

:lol:

People love the texture, look, smell and taste of food. Military/Starlfeet rations and cubes serve a purpose for long term close-quarters environments like deep space assginments, but we've seen humans indulging in full meals whenever possible.

Kirk liked his sandwiches and was quite upset when they were eaten by the Tribbles, seemingly the final straw in getting them off his ship.

Restaurants are still popular on Earth and are constantly referenced or shown when either there, or talking about it.

Obviously actual 'food' is still very important to Earth and its populace.

1001001 June 23 2013 03:37 PM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
A future without sandwiches is not worth living in.

MacLeod June 23 2013 03:53 PM

Re: Seriously, do they have sandwiches in the future?
 
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xvicente wrote: (Post 8284783)

But in Star Trek they have replicators! They can replicate fresh fruit and raw meat and grains and all kind of perishables like poof!-- fresh, no need for the food to be subjected to prehistoric techniques of preparation and storing.

In TOS Kirk is seen to eat small colored cubes. Is it possible THAT properly represents the food of the future, replicated nutrition from pure energy, unrestricted by storage and conservation requirements?

Well as you say in TNG they have replciatrs and can therofre replicate any meal they want so long as the pattern is in the database. Before replicators they would still have the same issues we have today. long term storage of food for deep space missions were resupply might not be easy or possible.


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