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Dick Whitman June 11 2013 04:55 PM

Been thinking its time to try Doctor Who
 
I have never seen a whole episode of any of the series. Which even than was only once or twice. I never new of it growing up but I know the basic premise. What I did see was hard for me to grasp but I have never made a serious effort to try. I am starting to think I finally should because half my Facebook friends are fans.

A big question I have always had is it really a time travel series? I am a time travel fanatic. But mostly about exploring history. Yet the show seems to be more about fighting aliens. Or am I wrong?

OmahaStar June 11 2013 05:01 PM

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Donald Draper wrote: (Post 8232628)
A big question I have always had is it really a time travel series? I am a time travel fanatic. But mostly about exploring history. Yet the show seems to be more about fighting aliens. Or am I wrong?

Yes, it is a time travel series.

When it began, 50 years ago, it was intended to teach children about history, and it did so (Marco Polo, the Aztecs, etc), but if they could go to the past, they could also go to the future. And they typically had better ratings when they showed alien monsters in the future, so they do tend to have their share of them ... but they do still have historical shows, including stories about WW2, Agatha Christie, ancient Venice, etc.

You never really know where you'll find yourself when you step through the doors of the Tardis. Hang on and enjoy the ride.

Rowan Sjet June 11 2013 05:16 PM

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but they do still have historical shows, including stories about WW2, Agatha Christie, ancient Venice, etc.
Except all those episodes are really about the 'aliens'. The history, like the future periods, is just a backdrop.

MacLeod June 11 2013 05:27 PM

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Traveling in time and fighting aliens is little different than traveling from planet to planet and fighting aliens.

And strictly speaking it's one series. (1963-1989, 96 and 2005-).

But a good place to start would be the first episode of the 2005- run "Rose".

Emh June 11 2013 05:28 PM

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but they do still have historical shows, including stories about WW2, Agatha Christie, ancient Venice, etc.
Except all those episodes are really about the 'aliens'. The history, like the future periods, is just a backdrop.

Indeed, there hasn't been a "pure historical" since The Fifth Doctor's Black Orchid, which is one of my minor beefs with the current run of the show. Don't get me wrong, I love what we do get, but it would be very nice to have a story in vein of such classics as The Aztecs, The Reign of Terror, and Marco Polo.

Dick Whitman June 11 2013 05:29 PM

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Rowan Sjet wrote: (Post 8232748)
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but they do still have historical shows, including stories about WW2, Agatha Christie, ancient Venice, etc.
Except all those episodes are really about the 'aliens'. The history, like the future periods, is just a backdrop.

That is what I suspected. I might like it for what it really is though.

Dick Whitman June 11 2013 05:32 PM

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MacLeod wrote: (Post 8232790)
Traveling in time and fighting aliens is little different than traveling from planet to planet and fighting aliens.

And strictly speaking it's one series. (1963-1989, 96 and 2005-).

But a good place to start would be the first episode of the 2005- run "Rose".

I was using the British term for series. Which is the American equviant of season. I think.

C.E. Evans June 11 2013 05:37 PM

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Donald Draper wrote: (Post 8232628)
A big question I have always had is it really a time travel series? I am a time travel fanatic. But mostly about exploring history. Yet the show seems to be more about fighting aliens. Or am I wrong?

Often it's about fighting aliens in different periods of history. Earth is an ideal place for various alien baddies to hide, and some of them have even managed to cause some historical events (such as the Great Fire of London in 1666). Others have involved themselves in various wars throughout Earth history with usually a not very nice agenda in mind.

Sindatur June 11 2013 05:40 PM

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Donald Draper wrote: (Post 8232802)
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Rowan Sjet wrote: (Post 8232748)
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but they do still have historical shows, including stories about WW2, Agatha Christie, ancient Venice, etc.
Except all those episodes are really about the 'aliens'. The history, like the future periods, is just a backdrop.

That is what I suspected. I might like it for what it really is though.

If you're really interested in the Pure historicals, and have no problem with Black and White TV and the slower pacing of TV shows in that time period, check out William Hartnell's First Doctor Era, about 1/3 of his stories are purely Historical (Though only 4 of his Historical Stories exist complete - The Aztecs, The Romans, and The Gunfighters, plus Reign of Terror is missing 2 episodes, which were recently Animated). Troughton's Second Doctor, had an historical in his second Story, and then they were pretty much discontinued. Although, there are many stories with Aliens/Monsters being fought in historical settings, and many times that Antagonist is messing about with our history.

If you want to get into the Current show, yea, start with Eccelston's first Episode Rose or Matt Smith's first episode The 11th hour (New Show runner, who is still the current Showrunner, and Matt Smith is the current Doctor)

MacLeod June 11 2013 05:40 PM

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^Ah ok.

It's basic premise is rather simple though.

Short short version: A Mad man and his box.

Short version: An alien with companions travels through time and space in his box the TARDIS fighting injustice and aliens.

Now obvioulsy there is more to it than that but the first series upon it's return starting with "Rose" introduces new audiances to the world of DW. We could say more but that might spoil it for you.

Dick Whitman June 11 2013 06:59 PM

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Involving actual historical events is not necessary. But if they go to 60s, 70s, 80s, etc does it show the fashion and pop culture of those eras. Have fun with that stuff?

Redfern June 11 2013 07:05 PM

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I'd say, "yes" it does. Hopefully without revealing too much, "The Idiot's Lantern" has the Doctor appear in 1953 right before Elizabeth's coronation. The Doctor actually styled his hair in a pompadour (sp?) and his companion dons a "poodle skirt" to hopefully blend in a tad better. Part of the plot involves TVs (since that coronation was the first to do so), so we get to see the hardware of the era.

Sincerely,

Bill

MacLeod June 11 2013 07:30 PM

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Well episodes set in the past from the 2005- era

"The Unqueit Dead" - Britain Vicorian Era 1869

"The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" - Britain WWII (Considered one of the best stories)

"The Girl in The Fireplace" - France 1700's

"The Idiot's Lantern" - Britain 1953

"The Shakespeare Code" - Elizabethan London 1599

"Daleks in Manhatten"/"Evolution of the Daleks" - USA (New York) 1930

"The Fires of Pompeii" - Italy 79AD

"The Unicorn and the Wasp" - Britain 1926

"The Next Doctor" - Britain Christmas 1851

"The Vampires of Venice" - Venice 1580

"Vincent And The Doctor" - France 1890

"The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon" - USA 1969

"The Curse of the Blackspot" - 17th Century

"Let's Kill Hitler" - Germany 1938

"A Twon Called Mercy" - USA Wild West Era

"The Angels Take Manhatten" - USA New York 1930's

"The Snowmen" - Britain 1800's

"Cold War" - 1983

"Hide" - Britain 1974

"The Crimson Horror" - Britain 1893

Starkers June 11 2013 09:20 PM

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Plus Tooth and Claw (19th century Scotland) and Victory of the Daleks (WW2) :)

MacLeod June 11 2013 09:50 PM

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You're right I missed two.


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