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JD June 10 2013 04:52 AM

Sinbad on Syfy
 
So did anyone else watch this?
I thought it was pretty fun. Nothing mind blowing, but I enjoyed it for what it was. I did love the fact that it had a mostly non-white cast. It always drives me crazy when they make stuff like this and then they fill the cast out with nothing but pasty white people.

Mr. Adventure June 10 2013 05:26 AM

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Yeah, I thought the same, decent for casual viewing.

Christopher June 10 2013 05:09 PM

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So far, I'm quite impressed by it. Mainly because it's the first Sinbad series or movie I've ever seen that didn't whitewash the character or his world. In the past, most screen Sinbads have been white, even when they were pretending to be Arabs. In the '96 Adventures of Sinbad, the title character was explicitly a (white) foreigner magically transported to the Middle East. In the infamous Legend of the Seven Seas animated movie from 2003, they expunged any Arab references and reinterpreted Sinbad and his whole world as part of Greek mythology. Now we finally get a series with a nonwhite Sinbad -- although, granted, actor Elliot Knight appears more African than Arab, and the overall cast is a mix of ethnic types. But it's progress nonetheless; at least we're past the time when the hero of an American or British adventure show had to be white. And I love the location work, the use of a preserved historic site in Malta (apparently) to represent medieval Basra. It's gorgeous and gives the show an authentic Middle Eastern feel -- although I can't say the same for the very cheesy CGI of the palace.

But I'm liking the writing and character work so far as well. This is a rather revisionist take on Sinbad; in the original legends, he was just a noble scion whose family had used up its wealth so that he went to sea looking for adventure and profit. Here, he's a street rat and career thief and hustler who has to atone for a couple of evils he accidentally/recklessly committed. It remains to be seen how well the supporting cast will work out, but Sinbad's journey so far is interesting to me, and I think the show's off to a good start. Granted, it got cancelled after only one season, so maybe one shouldn't expect greatness, but I'm definitely eager to see what comes next.

Mr. Adventure June 14 2013 03:25 AM

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^ Looks like Syfy is going to show that version of Sinbad before the new series this weekend. It's been a while but I think I remember that it copied some characters from the hilariously silly Lou Ferrigno Sinbad movie.

Christopher June 14 2013 03:38 AM

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No, according to the schedule, the only thing they're showing before this week's Sinbad episode is a rerun of last week's episode.

Mr. Adventure June 14 2013 03:41 AM

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That sounds reasonable, my DVR says otherwise but that's probably a misunderstanding on their part.

Saga June 14 2013 04:11 AM

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i didn't even know there was a new Sinbad series. i'll have to give it a try.

MacLeod June 15 2013 07:33 AM

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^I'm guessing it's the TV Series Sky made last year.

Kegg June 15 2013 08:08 AM

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^
Well, the start of this year. It's already been cancelled, too.

Dimesdan June 15 2013 10:20 AM

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MacLeod wrote: (Post 8250397)
^I'm guessing it's the TV Series Sky made last year.

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Kegg wrote: (Post 8250457)
^
Well, the start of this year. It's already been cancelled, too.

Because from what I saw of it, it was utter shite and quiet a few people agreed.

Morpheus 02 June 16 2013 04:59 AM

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Just saw the pilot...and was surprised to like it. Sinbad is well acted ...we see a range of youthful carelessness to compassion and regret in one hour, believably.



It's nice to see the lead and the villain look to be of the same ethnicity...they ought to play father & son in a movie or show.

I am definitely interested to see where it goes...could SyFy do a movie on it if its successful?

Christopher June 16 2013 03:09 PM

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^Funny, they don't look the same ethnicity to me at all. Naveen Andrews is of Southern Indian ancestry, while Elliot Knight appears to be of mixed part-African ancestry as far as I can tell. The show has quite a diverse cast.

I liked episode 2. An interesting story with some decent character-building for at least some of the cast, and an interesting guest story with Sophie Okonedo as the queen. I liked the inclusion of the roc -- it shows they're actually drawing on the original legends, and Sinbad bonding with the creature was a nice touch, a change from the usual monster fights. The roc did seem unusually intelligent, but hey, it's a mythical creature. And the FX were pretty good.

I still think the crew needs work -- their characters could stand to be developed more and they don't seem to have bonded much yet. But they have potential. I liked the way Cook dealt with the interlopers. At one point I thought to myself, "I will love it if Cook is the one who saves them all by feeding the natives." It didn't work out that way, but it still turned out pretty well.

I'm still loving the location work, these gorgeous Mediterranean ruins and island settings they're using. And I like how they're portraying Middle Eastern culture as one where science and learning are held in esteem, although the focus has been pretty heavily on magic so far.

It's a disappointment that there hasn't been any followup on what was set up last week about Sinbad opening the chest belonging to Nala and her father and apparently releasing some kind of evil. That seems like the sort of thing that Nala would want to talk to Sinbad about at the earliest opportunity. But at least we got an answer to the question of what happens when Sinbad stays on land too long. It's actually pretty much exactly what I guessed would happen, though since the source of the curse is a thingy that goes around his neck, it wasn't that hard to deduce that strangulation would be involved.

I didn't understand what was going on with Razia's disappearing and reappearing face paint. Was it some kind of magical glamour that she lost when her concentration slipped? That seemed to be it, but it was not very well explained and it didn't really work.

Sto-Vo-Kory June 17 2013 01:43 AM

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I took the face paint to represent some sort of anointing from the god/goddess that she was the avatar for. When she acted on their behalf, the paint was present or vividly colored. When she spoke or acted for personal reasons, the paint disappeared.

Christopher June 17 2013 02:07 AM

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^I didn't get the sense that she was embodying the will of any deity. She was just the queen.

I mean, Sinbad is a character from Islamic culture, so if this show were to depict a polytheistic cosmos, that would be a huge, huge departure from the source, and one that would probably be offensive to the cultures who esteem Sinbad as their folk hero.

Sto-Vo-Kory June 17 2013 04:31 AM

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Christopher wrote: (Post 8257054)
^I didn't get the sense that she was embodying the will of any deity. She was just the queen.

I mean, Sinbad is a character from Islamic culture, so if this show were to depict a polytheistic cosmos, that would be a huge, huge departure from the source, and one that would probably be offensive to the cultures who esteem Sinbad as their folk hero.

Perhaps "god/goddess" isn't the term I should have used -- maybe otherworldly power or demon is more appropriate. She DID have supernatural abilities and they did seem tied to her ability and/or suitability to lead her people. I just thought the facial henna was a manifestation of the power that oversaw this weird little port.


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