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Cadet49 June 9 2013 03:28 AM

Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
In the film, Kirk made some decisions during the "Harrison Incident" that will have a lasting impact on a lot of people, both on the Enterprise, Earth, and even on the Klingon homeworld. It certainly forced him to recognize that his actions have consequences on others, just as he had to face such feelings in the original series episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before", where he had to kill his best friend, Gary Mitchell, to prevent him from destroying the Enterprise... it showed him the burden of command. I wonder ... will we see him he have to wrestle with second-guessing the decisions he made during the incident, and do you think that will that be explored in later stories (books, comics, next movie, etc.)?


Therin of Andor June 9 2013 05:48 AM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
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Cadet49 wrote: (Post 8221384)
Do you think, following the incident, Kirk would need to deal with a lot of second guessing his decisions, and feelings of guilt?

Magic blood cures all. :devil:

teacake June 9 2013 07:01 AM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
Magic fathead blood.

Those are all good questions Cadet49. I'm thinking we may not see the wrestling itself (on film) but we will see the man it makes him. There will probably be some reflection shown, assuming the next movie is less full on action. When he's being dressed down by Pike he's like a cocky school kid in the principle's office.. I don't think we will see that again. Prime Kirk is brimming with confidence but it's tempered by experience and we just saw NuKirk get that experience.

And really he was the perfect fall guy for Marcus, already under suspicion with discipline issues. He couldn't send say, Bradbury, out there because Bradbury was a much older man. Giving the mission to the loose cannon would enable him to shift the blame very easily.

And yeah Kirk should feel like shit because of this.. but it's not like it would have gone down any better with another Captain.

Timelord Victorious June 9 2013 10:21 AM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
He had a year to deal with it before disembarking again.

And Bradbury was the ship, not the Captain.

teacake June 9 2013 11:15 AM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
OH YEAH, duh.

King Daniel Into Darkness June 9 2013 11:23 AM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
It may be covered in IDW's comics (although in the nuTrek comic 'verse, Kirk did lose people as far back as issue #1). Sadly there aren't going to be any novels set in the new movie continuity, at least not for the forseeable future - which is a huge shame, since that's the medium such issues can be explored best.

teacake June 9 2013 11:47 AM

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King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: (Post 8222314)
Sadly there aren't going to be any novels set in the new movie continuity, at least not for the forseeable future - which is a huge shame, since that's the medium such issues can be explored best.

So what's the current explanation for why we don't get the novels?

King Daniel Into Darkness June 9 2013 12:37 PM

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teacake wrote: (Post 8222335)
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King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: (Post 8222314)
Sadly there aren't going to be any novels set in the new movie continuity, at least not for the forseeable future - which is a huge shame, since that's the medium such issues can be explored best.

So what's the current explanation for why we don't get the novels?

It may be partly to do with this: http://www.thewrap.com/movies/articl...mbitions-91766
Although everyone in the know is remaining tight lipped.

solariabsg25 June 9 2013 07:00 PM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
Yeah, split licensing deals like that can be a minefield.

A few years ago a role-playing game was produced based on Serenity. Unfortunately, the licensing deal did not include Firefly so it could only include anything that was mentioned or seen in the movie, but not from the TV show it was based on.

Kruezerman June 9 2013 07:11 PM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
We could see him becoming more like the Kirk we see in TOS, still a maverick but much more mature and cautious with his crew. It's a good thing that we see that he deeply cares for them and that we are shown that the crew is a family and the Enterprise is their home.

JarodRussell June 10 2013 01:51 PM

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King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: (Post 8222380)
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teacake wrote: (Post 8222335)
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King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: (Post 8222314)
Sadly there aren't going to be any novels set in the new movie continuity, at least not for the forseeable future - which is a huge shame, since that's the medium such issues can be explored best.

So what's the current explanation for why we don't get the novels?

It may be partly to do with this: http://www.thewrap.com/movies/articl...mbitions-91766
Although everyone in the know is remaining tight lipped.

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TheWrap has learned that Bad Robot asked CBS to stop making products featuring the original cast, but talks broke down over money.
Now that would have been pretty disturbing. Good thing CBS didn't agree to that.

newtontomato539 June 12 2013 11:35 PM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
The article is lie. Try again. :techman:

M'Sharak June 13 2013 12:50 AM

Re: Is Kirk now "emotionally compromised" - aftermath? (Spoilers)
 
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newtontomato539 wrote: (Post 8239183)
The article is lie. Try again. :techman:

As I said in the other thread, you've about reached the limit on spammy posts such as this. Bring something which contributes substance to the discussion, or consider not posting anything at all.


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