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kgartm1185 June 8 2013 06:00 PM

USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Which ship would win in a battle?

Tosk June 8 2013 06:04 PM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
I'd have voted differently if it were the thread title only, but the Enterprise E would wipe the floor with the other two.

USS Firefly June 8 2013 07:05 PM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
I agree

MacLeod June 8 2013 07:21 PM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Well I know which ship wouldn't win.

Though as this crosses three shows, shouldn't it be in General Trek?

Avon June 8 2013 09:45 PM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
the defiant and ent e would cripple eachother, whilst voyager would self-destruct

Captain Kathryn June 9 2013 08:56 PM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
I think all three were great ships with Captains who loved them.

marksound June 9 2013 10:12 PM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Worf is first officer of the Defiant and every time we see the E onscreen he is at tactical, so there is no way he could be in two places at once. Unless there's some sort of anomaly, probably caused by Voyager.

Since Voyager usually comes out on top when there's some weird anomaly, I'm giving this one to ...

James Tiberius Freaking Kirk. He slingshots around the sun into the 24th century and surprises the other captains. In their shock at seeing the older ship Kirk blows up all three other ships with a massive kickass torpedo assault that Scotty improvises on the spur of the moment.

Shazam! June 9 2013 10:20 PM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Going by only what's seen on screen I'd say the Defiant. It'd probably ram the Enterprise-E.

TheSubCommander June 10 2013 01:32 AM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Assuming all three are normal specifications (no future tech or Borg tech), then the Enterprise E clearly is the most powerful and most advanced of the three, and the largest.

Voyager modified as seen per Endgame, took out Borg Cubes easily, so if you go with modifications, then Voyager has it.

JirinPanthosa June 10 2013 03:52 AM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Being larger does not make the ship more suited for battle. I might go with Defiant just based on maneuverability and the fact that it has a cloaking device.

Voyager with future armor, okay, but Voyager when it was built loses easily to Defiant.

I don't know why they never introduced the concept of fighters in DS9. They were rather obvious additions to Babylon 5 and BSG. Maybe they only didn't it because they were afraid to be accused of copying B5?

Tosk June 10 2013 06:05 AM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
^We did see fighters, didn't we? Those little ships that were always darting in and out in the big DS9 battles (originally seen as Maquis ships, I believe)...how big were they supposed to be?

Edited to add:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Fede...attack_fighter

AllStarEntprise June 10 2013 06:15 AM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Defiant is a "tough little ship" from what we saw throughout the Dominion War.

Voyager slaughtered Borg cubes due to they're transphasic torpedoes or whatever Adm Janeway brought from the future. I can't imagine they would work on a ship that doesn't analyze and adapt to everything like the Borg do.

The Enterprise-E is a "tough big ship" as we saw from First Contact and Nemesis. Big E takes this battle.



Yeah... Fighters have know future against big starships.

TheSubCommander June 10 2013 08:10 AM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Quote:

JirinPanthosa wrote: (Post 8225662)
Being larger does not make the ship more suited for battle. I might go with Defiant just based on maneuverability and the fact that it has a cloaking device.
Voyager with future armor, okay, but Voyager when it was built loses easily to Defiant.

True considering the Defiant pwned the Lakota. However, IIR the Defiant class was basically the testing ground for everything that got put in the Sovereign's. Enterprise E- is everything the Defiant is but bigger, faster, better shielded, more powerful and has a bigger arsenal of weapons available. Remember, E-E was also constructed to be a Borg fighter.

With Starfleet having possession of the Romulan cloak aboard the Defiant, I am sure it has been dissected enough where starfleet captains have been briefed on how to detect cloaked ships using Romulan cloaks, and how to track them. Heck, even Geordi figured out how in TNG.

Also, Defiant may be more maneuverable, but the defiant is only able to fire forward, whereas the Sovereigns have a 360 firing arc for the phaser arrays. So the maneuverability is not as much an advantage against Enterprise E, as it would have been against the Lakota, or maybe even a galaxy class ship.

Defiant isn't winning this one against Enterprise E.

teacake June 10 2013 09:20 AM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Quote:

AllStarEntprise wrote: (Post 8226007)
Big E takes this battle.

Yes.

Why are they all fighting, anyway?

TheSubCommander June 10 2013 03:32 PM

Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant
 
Quote:

teacake wrote: (Post 8226331)
Quote:

AllStarEntprise wrote: (Post 8226007)
Big E takes this battle.

Yes.

Why are they all fighting, anyway?

Because, reasons.

Or,

The bugs from Conspiracy, are BACK!!!!


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