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d'Anconia June 6 2013 09:38 AM

Essential DS9 Episodes
 
I am planning on watching Deep Space 9 again, however, I want to do it within the next 2 months, 1 episode a day. What are the most essential/important episodes I should watch?

I found a thread that had a list of the Dominion War Episodes: http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=124492 , I will be watching these episodes, however, I also want to watch many other episodes which are very good, such as 'Past Tense', 'The Visitor', and 'The Sound of her Voice'.

Thanks.

MacLeod June 6 2013 11:17 AM

Re: Essential DS9 Episodes
 
"Duet" should definatly be on the list.

GameOn June 6 2013 01:47 PM

Re: Essential DS9 Episodes
 
1x19 - Duet
1x20 - In the Hands of Prophets
2x14 - Whispers
2x19 - Blood Oath
2x22 - The Wire
2x23 - Crossover
3x09 - Defiant
3x11 - Past Tense Part 1
3x21 - Past Tense Part 2
3x17 - Visionary
3x19 - Through the Looking Glass
3x22 - Explorers
4x03 - The Visitor
4x06 - Rejoined
4x08 - Little Green Men
4x17 - Accession
4x19 - Hard Time
4x20 - Shattered Mirror
4x24 - The Quickening
5x04 - Nor the Battle to the Strong
5x06 - Trials of Tribble-ations
5x12 - The Begotten
5x16 - Doctor Bashir, I Presume
5x22 - Children of Time
6x09 - Statistical Probabilities
6x13 - Far Beyond the Stars
6x18 - Inquisition
6x25 - The Sound of Her Voice
7x15 - Badda-Bing Badda-Bang
7x16 - Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges

Vulcan Logician June 6 2013 09:48 PM

Re: Essential DS9 Episodes
 
Don't forget Way of the Warrior

R. Star June 7 2013 12:03 AM

Re: Essential DS9 Episodes
 
If you've seen the whole series, you don't need us to make a list for you. Stick in season 1, disc 1 and choose an episode you feel like watching. If you don't skip over it then on to disc 2 and so forth.

Paper Moon June 7 2013 04:53 AM

Re: Essential DS9 Episodes
 
Trimming DS9 down to 61 nights, eh? Challenge accepted! (Though I actually really do like R. Star's approach.)

For funsies, my final list is at the end; my interim lists come first, so you can see which episodes were easy to delete. ;)



Well, that got it down to 153... let's try again.



Alright, so that's 41 of the 61 I'm allotting... get to pick 20 more!

*some time later*

Well, here we are. This was an interesting exercise and I'm not really happy with the results, to be honest. On the one hand, I think I might be able to come up with a better list if I devoted a lot more time to it. On the other hand, I'm not sure I could really come up with a satisfactory "Abridged DS9" episode list in 60-ish episodes. I do like the results of my first culling– but if you're gonna watch 150 episodes, you might as well watch all 173.

The final list's episodes fall into three categories:

1) The Big Ones: The major events, the big plot advances. Almost all of the two-parters are in here. I omitted Past Tense even though I think it's really good because it has few repercussions and there are just too many other really good episodes that tie into the larger arc more explicitly. (I do think Past Tense fits into the thematic arc of DS9 very well, and is a key episode in Bashir's development, but still.) I omitted The Maquis for similar reasons. In fact, as I did with the Mirror Universe arc, I omitted the entire Maquis and Eddington arc, simply because there wasn't enough space.

2) The Masterpieces: Duet, The Wire, The Visitor, Far Beyond the Stars, In The Pale Moonlight... hours of television that really approach art.

3) The Little Guys: These choices reflect my personal preferences much more than the rest of the list. These are kinda the "best of everyday DS9"; these episodes aren't major turning points within the narrative of the show, nor are they extraordinary hours of television, they're just great DS9, representative of most of the rest of the series.

The list is very skewed towards the Dominion War, in a way that's not representative of the series as a whole. It also is less representative of the lighter episodes of DS9, some of the only instances of Star Trek doing comedy effectively. As I said, it lacks the Maquis/Eddington Arc, the Mirror Universe arc, as well as the Trill Arc, such as it is, and all of the Ezri episodes in season 7. It's also biased against Klingon episodes, since I personally think that several of them ("Blood Oath," "The Sword of Kahless," and "Once More Unto The Breach") are relatively weak, so it's better to remove the whole arc from the list. Lastly, it is very much biased towards later seasons and against the first two (much to my chagrin; I really wanted to include "Past Prologue," or "Babel," or "If Wishes Were Horses," or "Cardassians," or "Progress"...).

Anyway, here it is:



Actually, though, this was kinda fun; I think I might develop extensive arc lists; the Dominion War seems pretty well covered, but I'd love to create a Bashir's Arc list, or a Odo's Arc list. Maybe later this summer...

LiLiKitty June 9 2013 03:32 AM

Re: Essential DS9 Episodes
 
I'd love to see those character arc lists as well, Paper Moon!

d'Anconia June 9 2013 07:12 AM

Re: Essential DS9 Episodes
 
Wow, thanks for doing that much work. I will definitely be sticking to the episodes in the final list. Whenever I have time to watch more than a single episode a day, I will throw in the episodes from the first list.

And yeah, character arcs sound awesome, especially Bashir. A Dukat arc would also seem plausible.

Paper Moon June 22 2013 04:18 AM

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Quote:

d'Anconia wrote: (Post 8221942)
Wow, thanks for doing that much work. I will definitely be sticking to the episodes in the final list. Whenever I have time to watch more than a single episode a day, I will throw in the episodes from the first list.

And yeah, character arcs sound awesome, especially Bashir. A Dukat arc would also seem plausible.

I'm working on those arc lists; takes time, and I wanna do it right!

Looking back at my list, though, I'm really, really surprised that I didn't include "Necessary Evil." If you have to switch one out, I suppose I'd recommend ditching "Honor Among Thieves" in favor of "Necessary Evil," but then you lose what I believe to be the only O'Brien-episode on the list. So I say you should just add it in anyway. :)

I'm also surprised I didn't include "Waltz," or "The Collaborator," or "Things Past," though I think I decided early on to leave that category of episodes to be represented by "In The Pale Moonlight" and "Duet," and, to a lesser extent, "Honor Among Thieves" (killing three birds with one stone on that last one, being an Ambiguous episode, an O'Brien episode and a Little Guy).

This guy made up a list of all DS9 and TNG episodes with summaries and an assessment of each episode's essentiality to the show: http://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInst...lgernoneplists

I'm pretty sure the number of his "essential" episodes far exceeds the 60-ish you had allotted, but it's still interesting. I don't agree with all of his assessments (for example, he's in the "'Nor The Battle To The Strong"-is-meh" camp) but it's pretty good overall. Actually, I just noticed that he feels that "Far Beyond The Stars" is not essential; just lost a lotta points with me, buddy. Bleh, I just read his review of "FBTS," and, boy, has it left a bad taste in my mouth...

I am not Spock June 30 2013 03:26 AM

Re: Essential DS9 Episodes
 
Emissary
Duet
In The Hands of the Prophets
Way of the Warrior
The Visitor
Nor the Battle to the Strong
Trials and Tribble-ations
Far Beyond the Stars
In The Pale Moonlight
Inquisition
The Siege of AR-558
Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges

Essential DS9, IMO


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