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feek61 June 1 2013 10:30 PM

The Auxiliary Control Room
 
I noted this in Donny's great Unreal 3 Engine thread but I thought I would also post it here in case someone missed it. I have posted an article on the Auxiliary Control Room set at my site. If anyone is interested in reading it; you can do so here:


http://tosgraphics.yuku.com/topic/41...y-Control-Room

Thanks to Mytran here at the TrekBBS for his help.

Rulius June 2 2013 01:08 AM

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You would have thought it would have been one of the most heavily guarded parts of the ship.

ZapBrannigan June 2 2013 08:16 AM

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feek61 wrote: (Post 8187232)
If anyone is interested...

Yes and thanks! :bolian:

CrazyMatt June 3 2013 08:15 AM

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I imagine this set was originally conceived out of necessity for "The Doomsday Machine," since they used a portion of the standing Enterprise interior sets for the Constellation interiors, temporarily 'damaging' the sets for the latter by spray painting on fire damage and adding a bevy of bent conduits. A second control room was needed as they couldn't damage the bridge set--the majority of the scenes on the Enterprise were shot on there.

Interestingly, viewers first saw this set in "The Changeling," which was broadcast before but shot two weeks after the first episode where the ACR was shot on, "The Doomsday Machine." They had to damage it before they first shot on it! That also explains why the set is more ornately decorated in "The Changeling," with a computer access for Spock and additional computers in the engineers section.

I always wondered about the strangely half-moon angled wall to the right of the console... any thoughts about that?

Robert Comsol June 3 2013 10:28 AM

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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8194987)
I imagine this set was originally conceived out of necessity for "The Doomsday Machine," since they used a portion of the standing Enterprise interior sets for the Constellation interiors, temporarily 'damaging' the sets for the latter by spray painting on fire damage and adding a bevy of bent conduits. A second control room was needed as they couldn't damage the bridge set--the majority of the scenes on the Enterprise were shot on there.

That's a good theory. And they apparently had a wall segment from the old engine room set (the one that was displaced by the new ladder to the upper level of the new set) together with the lesser used briefing room viewscreen wall to assemble something new.

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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8194987)
I always wondered about the strangely half-moon angled wall to the right of the console... any thoughts about that?

If I recall correctly we saw that wall piece first in the adjacent gym area where the ladies excercised in "Charlie X" and later as an overhead beam in the Phaser Control Room in "Balance of Terror".
In-universe I believe this to be a structural support beam of the Engineering hull's bow (I concur with Doug Drexler that A.C.R. is probably on Engineering Deck 8).

Bob

feek61 June 3 2013 04:42 PM

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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8194987)
I imagine this set was originally conceived out of necessity for "The Doomsday Machine," since they used a portion of the standing Enterprise interior sets for the Constellation interiors, temporarily 'damaging' the sets for the latter by spray painting on fire damage and adding a bevy of bent conduits. A second control room was needed as they couldn't damage the bridge set--the majority of the scenes on the Enterprise were shot on there.

Interestingly, viewers first saw this set in "The Changeling," which was broadcast before but shot two weeks after the first episode where the ACR was shot on, "The Doomsday Machine." They had to damage it before they first shot on it! That also explains why the set is more ornately decorated in "The Changeling," with a computer access for Spock and additional computers in the engineers section.

I covered these points in the article.

EnsignHarper June 3 2013 05:12 PM

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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8194987)
I imagine this set was originally conceived out of necessity for "The Doomsday Machine," since they used a portion of the standing Enterprise interior sets for the Constellation interiors, temporarily 'damaging' the sets for the latter by spray painting on fire damage and adding a bevy of bent conduits. A second control room was needed as they couldn't damage the bridge set--the majority of the scenes on the Enterprise were shot on there.

Interestingly, viewers first saw this set in "The Changeling," which was broadcast before but shot two weeks after the first episode where the ACR was shot on, "The Doomsday Machine." They had to damage it before they first shot on it! That also explains why the set is more ornately decorated in "The Changeling," with a computer access for Spock and additional computers in the engineers section.

I always wondered about the strangely half-moon angled wall to the right of the console... any thoughts about that?

In fact, in DM, except for some corridor shots, not a single 'Enterprise set', is used for the Constellation set pieces...

GSchnitzer June 3 2013 06:19 PM

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EnsignHarper wrote: (Post 8196430)
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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8194987)
I imagine this set was originally conceived out of necessity for "The Doomsday Machine," since they used a portion of the standing Enterprise interior sets for the Constellation interiors, temporarily 'damaging' the sets for the latter by spray painting on fire damage and adding a bevy of bent conduits. A second control room was needed as they couldn't damage the bridge set--the majority of the scenes on the Enterprise were shot on there.

Interestingly, viewers first saw this set in "The Changeling," which was broadcast before but shot two weeks after the first episode where the ACR was shot on, "The Doomsday Machine." They had to damage it before they first shot on it! That also explains why the set is more ornately decorated in "The Changeling," with a computer access for Spock and additional computers in the engineers section.

I always wondered about the strangely half-moon angled wall to the right of the console... any thoughts about that?

In fact, in DM, except for some corridor shots, not a single 'Enterprise set', is used for the Constellation set pieces...

Well, except for all the scenes in the Engineering Room and the one scene in the Ward Room.

feek61 June 3 2013 06:24 PM

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EnsignHarper wrote: (Post 8196430)
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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8194987)
I imagine this set was originally conceived out of necessity for "The Doomsday Machine," since they used a portion of the standing Enterprise interior sets for the Constellation interiors, temporarily 'damaging' the sets for the latter by spray painting on fire damage and adding a bevy of bent conduits. A second control room was needed as they couldn't damage the bridge set--the majority of the scenes on the Enterprise were shot on there.

Interestingly, viewers first saw this set in "The Changeling," which was broadcast before but shot two weeks after the first episode where the ACR was shot on, "The Doomsday Machine." They had to damage it before they first shot on it! That also explains why the set is more ornately decorated in "The Changeling," with a computer access for Spock and additional computers in the engineers section.

I always wondered about the strangely half-moon angled wall to the right of the console... any thoughts about that?

In fact, in DM, except for some corridor shots, not a single 'Enterprise set', is used for the Constellation set pieces...

. . . also except for the transporter room and the Jefferies tube :)

EnsignHarper June 3 2013 06:39 PM

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GSchnitzer wrote: (Post 8196751)
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EnsignHarper wrote: (Post 8196430)
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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8194987)
I imagine this set was originally conceived out of necessity for "The Doomsday Machine," since they used a portion of the standing Enterprise interior sets for the Constellation interiors, temporarily 'damaging' the sets for the latter by spray painting on fire damage and adding a bevy of bent conduits. A second control room was needed as they couldn't damage the bridge set--the majority of the scenes on the Enterprise were shot on there.

Interestingly, viewers first saw this set in "The Changeling," which was broadcast before but shot two weeks after the first episode where the ACR was shot on, "The Doomsday Machine." They had to damage it before they first shot on it! That also explains why the set is more ornately decorated in "The Changeling," with a computer access for Spock and additional computers in the engineers section.

I always wondered about the strangely half-moon angled wall to the right of the console... any thoughts about that?

In fact, in DM, except for some corridor shots, not a single 'Enterprise set', is used for the Constellation set pieces...

Well, except for all the scenes in the Engineering Room and in the Ward Room.

What I meant was - and poorly phrased that for Doomsday Machine, there was a careful separation of the sets used to portray Constellation, from the 'regular' Enterprise sets. In fact, there are really only two sets used for the ENT - the Transporter Room and the Bridge. That, the piece of corridor used for Deckers fight with Mr Montgomery, and the little piece of corridor where the Jeffries tube is. They must have shot those either very early, or more likely, very late in the shooting schedule.

I wonder if the UCLA archive has those call sheets...

Harvey June 3 2013 06:43 PM

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Between the Justman and Roddenberry collections, I believe there are call sheets for every episode.

HarryM June 3 2013 06:50 PM

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I think they likely didn't want to use the bridge set for the Constellation to avoid "confusing" the audience.

Timo June 3 2013 07:12 PM

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You would have thought it would have been one of the most heavily guarded parts of the ship.
To the contrary, you'd think that nobody would pay much attention to a dedicated backup facility that is basically never needed for anything. ;)

What you would expect down there is things battened down, turned off, inactive and very, very difficult to activate without proper training and up-to-date passwords.

Although as the article illustrates, the facility does see some use even outside emergencies, and in some episodes even appears to be permanently manned. And it's those episodes where the potential of hostile takeover gets realized...

Timo Saloniemi

Mister Atoz June 3 2013 07:33 PM

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GREAT article. Thanks for posting this.

~ Atoz

kennysmith June 4 2013 07:34 AM

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yes i like the size of each room and deck numbers for all parts of the ship.

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ZapBrannigan wrote: (Post 8189878)
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feek61 wrote: (Post 8187232)
If anyone is interested...

Yes and thanks! :bolian:



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