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CrazyMatt May 30 2013 08:35 AM

What if Gary Mitchell didn't die?
 
HMMMMMMMMM..............just photoshopping for fun. What if the character of Lt Cdr Gary Mitchell had not been killed off and remained the old friend of Kirk, as well as the second officer? How would TOS have played out?

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Metryq May 30 2013 10:13 AM

Re: What if Gary Mitchell didn't die?
 
Then Frank Poole might have been played by someone else. Dying in STAR TREK probably allowed him to die in 2001, too.

Robert Comsol May 30 2013 03:49 PM

Re: What if Gary Mitchell didn't die?
 
He would have played the roles of Bailey in "The Corbomite Maneuver" and of Lt. Styles in "Balance of Terror". Possibly someone with an attitude like "hit them hard, while we still can" or "fire first and ask questions later".

Come to think of it it might have been pretty interesting. :)

Bob

Pavonis May 30 2013 04:07 PM

Re: What if Gary Mitchell didn't die?
 
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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8175079)
HMMMMMMMMM..............just photoshopping for fun. What if the character of Lt Cdr Gary Mitchell had not been killed of and remained the old friend of Kirk, as well as the second officer? How would TOS have played out?

Some people think Mitchell was the first officer during "Where No Man...", so Spock would've been second officer.

If Mitchell were retained, then he probably would've brought the emotional component to the triumvirate that McCoy did. So what then of McCoy?

Kevman7987 May 30 2013 08:10 PM

Re: What if Gary Mitchell didn't die?
 
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Pavonis wrote: (Post 8176342)
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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8175079)
HMMMMMMMMM..............just photoshopping for fun. What if the character of Lt Cdr Gary Mitchell had not been killed of and remained the old friend of Kirk, as well as the second officer? How would TOS have played out?

Some people think Mitchell was the first officer during "Where No Man...", so Spock would've been second officer.

If Mitchell were retained, then he probably would've brought the emotional component to the triumvirate that McCoy did. So what then of McCoy?

Then there would be no McCoy as we know him. The doctor would be a secondary character at the level of the other secondary characters.

Nerys Myk May 30 2013 09:26 PM

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Mitchell's not really a "regular" type character. Not sure what role he would fill in the show beyond supernumerary.

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Pavonis wrote: (Post 8176342)
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CrazyMatt wrote: (Post 8175079)
HMMMMMMMMM..............just photoshopping for fun. What if the character of Lt Cdr Gary Mitchell had not been killed of and remained the old friend of Kirk, as well as the second officer? How would TOS have played out?

Some people think Mitchell was the first officer during "Where No Man...", so Spock would've been second officer.

If Mitchell were retained, then he probably would've brought the emotional component to the triumvirate that McCoy did. So what then of McCoy?

Then there would be no McCoy as we know him. The doctor would be a secondary character at the level of the other secondary characters.

Both pilots had a "McCoy". It's safe to say that that the Doctor character would not be dropped to secondary status.

Kevman7987 May 31 2013 02:03 AM

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Nerys Myk wrote: (Post 8177614)
Both pilots had a "McCoy". It's safe to say that that the Doctor character would not be dropped to secondary status.

But the second pilot was written around Mitchell turning into a megalomaniac and being killed. I'm sure if the show wanted a "triumvirate" that had Mitchell as the emotional element instead of the doctor character, the doctor would have been demoted to secondary status in the beginning.

Captain McBain May 31 2013 02:18 AM

Re: What if Gary Mitchell didn't die?
 
Some theorize that Gary Mitchell didn't actually die.

Praetor Baldric May 31 2013 03:23 AM

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Captain McBain wrote: (Post 8179042)
Some theorize that Gary Mitchell didn't actually die.

Yep, shame they never brought him back in one of the original trek movies. He could have been the god character.

Nerys Myk May 31 2013 03:59 AM

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Kevman7987 wrote: (Post 8178985)
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Nerys Myk wrote: (Post 8177614)
Both pilots had a "McCoy". It's safe to say that that the Doctor character would not be dropped to secondary status.

But the second pilot was written around Mitchell turning into a megalomaniac and being killed. I'm sure if the show wanted a "triumvirate" that had Mitchell as the emotional element instead of the doctor character, the doctor would have been demoted to secondary status in the beginning.

To do that, Mitchell would have to be completely rewritten. The guy we see in WNMHGB does not fill the Doctor role of "emotion." He's a cocky womanizer, not unlike the guy Kirk would evolve into. If Kirk was more cerebral, Mitchell might be the Riker to his Picard.

Kevman7987 May 31 2013 07:03 PM

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Nerys Myk wrote: (Post 8179426)
To do that, Mitchell would have to be completely rewritten. The guy we see in WNMHGB does not fill the Doctor role of "emotion." He's a cocky womanizer, not unlike the guy Kirk would evolve into. If Kirk was more cerebral, Mitchell might be the Riker to his Picard.

He was a cocky womanizer in the "Gary Mitchell must die" episode they ended up with. My idea would hold that had they felt they wanted Gary to be the McCoy-like emotional character, they write him like that, the doctor becomes a secondary character, and someone else becomes an omnipotent megalomaniac and dies.

Richard Baker May 31 2013 07:37 PM

Re: What if Gary Mitchell didn't die?
 
The Fanfilm "Of Gods and Men" takes place in an alternate universe where he did not die- he went on to control both the Federation and Klingon Empires (merged together). Great film with a lot of Franz Joseph style ships in a huge battle.

Nerys Myk May 31 2013 08:37 PM

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Nerys Myk wrote: (Post 8179426)
To do that, Mitchell would have to be completely rewritten. The guy we see in WNMHGB does not fill the Doctor role of "emotion." He's a cocky womanizer, not unlike the guy Kirk would evolve into. If Kirk was more cerebral, Mitchell might be the Riker to his Picard.

He was a cocky womanizer in the "Gary Mitchell must die" episode they ended up with. My idea would hold that had they felt they wanted Gary to be the McCoy-like emotional character, they write him like that, the doctor becomes a secondary character, and someone else becomes an omnipotent megalomaniac and dies.

Then it's not really "Gary Mitchell", it's just McCoy without a medical degree.

Kevman7987 May 31 2013 09:05 PM

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Nerys Myk wrote: (Post 8182168)
Then it's not really "Gary Mitchell", it's just McCoy without a medical degree.

Pretty much.

Delta Vega June 1 2013 01:47 AM

Re: What if Gary Mitchell didn't die?
 
Mitchell had to die

There was only room for one smug womaniser on the Bridge

And quite frankly, Kirk was the better smug womaniser


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